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      03-16-2021, 05:02 PM   #111
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      03-16-2021, 05:03 PM   #112
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No driver, not sure what a ballast is? but was just the car
BMW procedure usually require putting weight (ballast) in the seats for alignment or corner balancing. I wondered if it was the case here, because the weight you quote seems like an outlier for a 6MT G8X.
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      03-16-2021, 05:11 PM   #113
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No driver, not sure what a ballast is? but was just the car
BMW procedure require putting weight (ballast) in the seats for alignment or corner balancing. I wondered if it was the case here, because the weight you quote seems like an outlier for a 6MT G8X.
No ballast just a new G82 M4 with a full tank of gas, I was there along with a couple other forum members who provided the scales.
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      03-16-2021, 05:41 PM   #114
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BMW procedure require putting weight (ballast) in the seats for alignment or corner balancing. I wondered if it was the case here, because the weight you quote seems like an outlier for a 6MT G8X.
got it no, just the car.
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You need to take the paper off the floor that's at least 300 kg. Did you correct the weight for altitude, it's probably still lighter then A civic (just a joke my entire post)
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No ballast just a new G82 M4 with a full tank of gas, I was there along with a couple other forum members who provided the scales.
Hmmm, I think I might know who provided the scales as I've heard that number from another source. Still an outlier though. I wonder what explains that.
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You wanna bet? If you take delivery of the TT you’ll never be back unless it burns a big hole in your pocket Btw, my P-car dealer had a TTS with the center lock wheels you are getting
Well I've already assumed it burning a hole in my pocket as fact . Now the question is if all the fuss is worth the extra dough and loss of practicality. I'll know soon enough .
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Cool. Take it you were in the service bay of an Audi dealership? What blasphemy 🤣😂. Those Audi mechanics seem like they are in awe of the M3.
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      03-16-2021, 08:15 PM   #120
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It just keeps getting better and better, the propagandist's are being proven wrong. That's the best news ever, anything under 3800lbs for the automatic is impressive in my book considering all the standard kit these cars comes with. Lighter than the G20 since the RWD M340i is about 3849lbs per C+D tester.
How is the G20 340i 3800 LB when the G20 330i is 3300 LB? Did they put lead in those 58 series motors?
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How is the G20 340i 3800 LB when the G20 330i is 3300 LB? Did they put lead in those 58 series motors?
G20 330i is ~3,660lb...

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BMW USA is pretty accurate with their curb weight numbers. My 2019 M2C 6MT weighed 3563lbs with full tank while the number on their website was 3600lbs.
so 150-200 lbs over an M2C for the M3 6MT. Considering how much bigger the cars is and the amount of tech, that's really impressive.
My '19 M2C with DCT is 3600 lbs and my e92 M3 DCT was 3617 lbs
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      03-16-2021, 10:11 PM   #123
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All of this squabbling over weight on a car with a back seat...

The G comes with more standard equipment and is slightly bigger in size than the F80. So, nothing exciting happening here. Would you rather BMW give you a basic stereo and weigh the car like that, when everyone will order the better stereo anyway and have the weight of that option anyway?
I think the disappointment comes from the fact that they didn’t do all that and made it lighter, like they did with the previous E90-F80 transition. To me it seems they just threw in the towel, just when they had the opportunity to make it absolutely incredible, last traditional M3 ever. I thought they could take this opportunity to give enthusiasts a gift, much like Porsche is doing with the GT4, GTS, etc.

I’m disappointed enough that I won’t buy one, but don’t wish the company ill, nor the new M3 owners ill. I hope they enjoy the car.
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Every time I see someone weighing their road car I wonder what someone does with this information. How would the owner's life change if the number on the scale was 300 lbs lighter or heavier?
If my car were 300lbs lighter I would pay less for track pads and tires and I would enjoy it more.
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The hate comes from looking at the front end. Not the weight. So lets not pound our chest.
No doubt. If the G8x rivaled GT3 times I'd still never buy it. It's hideous looking.
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I love how the whole thread is trying to justify to themselves that 3900lbs on a M3 is "amazing", we all know that's terrible, its not "not that bad", its just bad. Im just gonna be honest with myself that I'm already disappointed the g8x is heavier than the predecessor. I love the looks of the car but the weight is just hard to swallow on a car with a mighty M3 badge.
Ok so you thought a new tech car which has grown in size and has to fulfill more security standards than the predecessor will be lighter for a reasonable price?

Sorry for the question:
In what fantasy world do you live ?
I might be wrong but isn't the f80 lighter, more powerful, and have more tech than the e90 while also growing in size? So I guess that world.
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      03-16-2021, 11:57 PM   #128
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So the car is 700-800 lbs heavier than e46 M3 CSL and people are ecstatic?!

LOL
I mean, why not go back to 2002 Turbo? I mean, why not go back to a bicycle?

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So the car is 700-800 lbs heavier than e46 M3 CSL and people are ecstatic?!

LOL
I mean, why not go back to 2002 Turbo? I mean, why not go back to a bicycle?

Yeah, it's a stupid comparison.
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I might be wrong but isn't the f80 lighter, more powerful, and have more tech than the e90 while also growing in size? So I guess that world.
Fair point. But you gotta give kudos to BMW for the chassis and suspension work. The car is getting rave dynamic reviews despite the extra weight.
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