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      02-04-2024, 03:53 PM   #1
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Post +20hp power increase confirmed for LCI MY2025 M3 Competition M xDrive (G80)

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As previously reported by ynguldyn; confirmation that LCI MY25 G80 M3 Competition M xDrive will be getting a power bump of +20hp for a total of 523hp / 390kW.

31HJ - EUR LHD (3.0l / 390kW, Production period: from 07/2024)
32HJ - EUR RHD (3.0l / 390kW, Production period: from 07/2024)
33HJ - USA LHD (3.0l / 390kW, Production period: from 07/2024)
  • BMW will continue to offer the base model M3 LCI for MY25.

  • Power output for the base M3 and M3 Competition RWD remain unchanged for MY25.
    11HJ - EUR Base M3 LHD
    12HJ - EUR Base M3 RHD
    13HJ - USA Base M3
    21HJ - EUR M3C LHD
    22HJ - EUR M3C RHD
    23HJ - USA M3C
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      02-04-2024, 03:54 PM   #2
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Happy with my base M3. Love the headlights and the power is plenty enough for me!
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      02-04-2024, 10:14 PM   #3
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Thatís pretty wild, I went with the M3C RWD but I would have gone with the Xdrive version had it actually offered more power.

Guess they are trying to kill off the RWD version..?
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Any word on a HP bump for manuals? Iím assuming they wonít do it for clutch life.
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Any word on a HP bump for manuals? Iím assuming they wonít do it for clutch life.
Given there wasnít any news about a HP increase for the manual M4 LCI, doubt itís coming to the M3.
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Happy with my base M3. Love the headlights and the power is plenty enough for me!
LOL at those getting excited over +20HP on the vehicle that admittedly underreported the power in the first place. Desperately needed power increase...
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Any word on a HP bump for manuals? Iím assuming they wonít do it for clutch life.
The answer you seek is already in the first post.
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Any word on a HP bump for manuals? Iím assuming they wonít do it for clutch life.
No bump which makes sense. The manual canít support the tq from the Comp.
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Happy with my base M3. Love the headlights and the power is plenty enough for me!
Me too!
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This is great because when I had my comp x drive my number one complaint was that it was too slow.

Not. This is crazy, but OK for those who take to the track Ö but isnít that what the CS is for? Or is BMW competing with itself?
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That would a kick in the nuts if m4 would get it and m3 wouldnít

I think itís not the best idea for owners of current m3/4. Should make a tune retrofit available for existing cars.
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This power increase for xDrive vehicles is solely to compensate for the drivetrain losses that make it slower than the sdrive version.
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This power increase for xDrive vehicles is solely to compensate for the drivetrain losses that make it slower than the sdrive version.
Slower at speed obviously?
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What Bmw needs to be working on is compliance, handling, feedback through the steering wheel. Better braking system, lightweight wheels, and overall better design aesthetics instead of trying to wow people with horsepower.

I almost feel like they made this generation purposely onerous, so you fall in love immediately with the new class
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Slower at speed obviously?
Yes, should have mentioned that. xDrive loses a bit in rolling races.
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What Bmw needs to be working on is compliance, handling, feedback through the steering wheel. Better braking system, lightweight wheels, and overall better design aesthetics instead of trying to wow people with horsepower.

I almost feel like they made this generation purposely onerous, so you fall in love immediately with the new class
Also have this suspicion!
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What Bmw needs to be working on is compliance, handling, feedback through the steering wheel. Better braking system, lightweight wheels, and overall better design aesthetics instead of trying to wow people with horsepower.

I almost feel like they made this generation purposely onerous, so you fall in love immediately with the new class
I would recommend a Porsche for these things. Ship has sailed.
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I think the breaking is just fine but the stearing feel is lacking. Piggy back gets us way past the 20 plus horses ! I like the lighting on this generation. But I have to say, I would love to have the new steering wheel it will be coming with.
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[QUOTE=fanofbmwe46;30875126]Happy with my base M3. Love the headlights and the power is plenty enough for me![/QUOTE

Pumpin' up the base speaker - awesome build! The cloud above could not wait to agree and match your color.
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What Bmw needs to be working on is compliance, handling, feedback through the steering wheel. Better braking system, lightweight wheels, and overall better design aesthetics instead of trying to wow people with horsepower.

I almost feel like they made this generation purposely onerous, so you fall in love immediately with the new class
You are actually more than right. Its just BMW R&D budget has other priorities. Illustrating what might have transpired during the last BMW board meeting:

- Let's start with sales projections (Plan A - XM exceeds sales targets;
Plan B - X5 sales save the day)

- Subtract profit target

- That leaves money for everything else: R&D, manufacturing, European Delivery (oh -- we canceled that ...)

- Let's see who is asking for money

- Electric vehicle teams tell us that cars are heavier and more suspension tuning is required; plus battery development teams need more money for solid state batteries. We get it; regression to Oldsmobile handling is less than desired. Your budget is increased.

- M3 is selling well; 20 more HP can be added by simply tuning the DME software in an engine where the design can accommodate even larger HP increases. No budget increase for you.

So the wish to achieve a near perfection in handling and steering dynamics is undoubtedly there. Corporate budgets are a zero sum game.
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You are actually more than right. Its just BMW R&D budget has other priorities. Illustrating what might have transpired during the last BMW board meeting:

- Let's start with sales projections (Plan A - XM exceeds sales targets;
Plan B - X5 sales save the day)

- Subtract profit target

- That leaves money for everything else: R&D, manufacturing, European Delivery (oh ó we canceled that ...)

- Let's see who is asking for money

- Electric vehicle teams tell us that cars are heavier and more suspension tuning is required; plus battery development teams need more money for solid state batteries. We get it; regression to Oldsmobile handling is less than desired. Your budget is increased.

- M3 is selling well; 20 more HP can be added by simply tuning the DME software in an engine where the design can accommodate even larger HP increases. No budget increase for you.

So the wish to achieve a near perfection in handling and steering dynamics is undoubtedly there. Corporate budgets are a zero sum game.
I agree!!! 100%
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