[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I live in the Arctic. What if i want my defroster on and i am wearing gloves.

buy a different car

remote start your car

take your gloves off

move

I have done all of those things multiple times in my life.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

buy a different car

remote start your car

take your gloves off

move

I have done all of those things multiple times in my life.

Sounds like BMW hit a home run for the consumer here...

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Sounds like BMW hit a home run for the consumer here...

not all cars work for all people. you better stick with the classics because this is the direction new cars are going at least until people speak with their pocketbooks. complaining on car forums about product design has always been a waste of time.

btw, were my suggestions not realistic for you? the car turns on the defroster automatically when you remote start it if the temps are below the preset. you don't need to turn on your defroster when it's cold.

do you have a different more plausible scenario that would justify your negativity?

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

not all cars work for all people. you better stick with the classics because this is the direction new cars are going at least until people speak with their pocketbooks. complaining on car forums about product design has always been a waste of time.

btw, were my suggestions not realistic for you? the car turns on the defroster automatically when you remote start it if the temps are below the preset. you don't need to turn on your defroster when it's cold.

do you have a different more plausible scenario that would justify your negativity?

I have a my22 car im good. I just find it hilarious that people think ID8 is attractive and intuitive.

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I have a my22 car im good. I just find it hilarious that people think ID8 is attractive and intuitive.

you think it's hilarious when people don't share the same perspectives and opinions as you or just specifically car stereo and navigation systems?

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I live in the Arctic. What if i want my defroster on and i am wearing gloves.

buy a Tesla, they have no buttons you're supposed to use voice commands apparently

maybe you can use voice command on the iD8?

[MinMax]

I feel iDrive8 doesn't look like it's integrated well with the rest of the car. It feels just like a big ipad slapping on the dashboard. Hope bmw figures something out that fits better with M in the future. Need that cool and wow factors!

[Besharaf]

For the LCI and iDrive 8, are there more color options for the ambient lighting?

[kjx]

Originally Posted by MassComp

Thanks for the heads up, but what's my choice here really....not buy the car?

The M4 will still have ID7 through the 2023 MY.

The M5 LCI still has ID7 until the next gen (afaik).

The M8 cars will likely remain with ID7 until the next generation since the LCI just came out.

So while there's nothing exactly like the M3, just about any of the other M cars can work here.

[Higgs Boson]

People have been complaining about the "new version" of infotainment across all brands, especially the european brands since what.....2014? At least that's the first time I remember people complaining about MB "ipad on the dash."

Guess what, everyone got used to it, accepted it, started liking it, and complained when they changed it again, lol

This is the same thing as the new grill. Simple resistance to change.

[MassComp]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I live in the Arctic. What if i want my defroster on and i am wearing gloves.

Then just press the defroster button....the new iDrive 8 dash still has one, and a fan button too....

[MassComp]

Originally Posted by kjx

The M4 will still have ID7 through the 2023 MY.

The M5 LCI still has ID7 until the next gen (afaik).

The M8 cars will likely remain with ID7 until the next generation since the LCI just came out.

So while there's nothing exactly like the M3, just about any of the other M cars can work here.

No thanks, I want an M3....and I'll learn to live with the new iDrive 8 dash....

[forcefed]

All these suck, idrive 1 for life!

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

you think it's hilarious when people don't share the same perspectives and opinions as you or just specifically car stereo and navigation systems?

Yes

[kjx]

Originally Posted by MassComp

No thanks, I want an M3....and I'll learn to live with the new iDrive 8 dash....

Yeah, those are tough choices but the fact remains that there are options for those who are bothered by ID8. There's also the option to buy some lightly used, high spec 2022 M3.

It's nevertheless sad that they are moving away from the fighter pilot cockpit experience for sports cars in alignment with their lower end and electric offerings.

[MCM4]

The issue for must of us who are opposed has nothing to do with the 8 versus 7 tech. It is the damn screen, and seemingly what is an absolute oversight on how to integrate it. The gap I have circled would drive me crazy, and I will not buy any car with this type of half-assed design. Heck, I read a brief article earlier on a Peugeot 408, have a look at how nice their integration is in comparison. Add all the screens you want, tell us that is the future, but please maintain some sort of definition directly in front of the driver.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by MinMax

I feel iDrive8 doesn't look like it's integrated well with the rest of the car. It feels just like a big ipad slapping on the dashboard. Hope bmw figures something out that fits better with M in the future. Need that cool and wow factors!

looks even worse from the side IMO

but beauty lies in the eye of the beholder

[G30M]

Originally Posted by MCM4

The issue for must of us who are opposed has nothing to do with the 8 versus 7 tech. It is the damn screen, and seemingly what is an absolute oversight on how to integrate it. The gap I have circled would drive me crazy, and I will not buy any car with this type of half-assed design. Heck, I read a brief article earlier on a Peugeot 408, have a look at how nice their integration is in comparison. Add all the screens you want, tell us that is the future, but please maintain some sort of definition directly in front of the driver.

have you seen the view from the side & back

if they made it like a long dash (Mercedes?) then it would suddenly be awesome

[themnmd]

I am sure it operates fine. I just wish it was more flush with the dashboard. It's like hey we forgot the instrument cluster so let's stick on overgrown IPad

[WraithM5]

I want i drive 8

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by WraithM5

I want i drive 8

[MCM4]

Originally Posted by G80M4

have you seen the view from the side & back

if they made it like a long dash (Mercedes?) then it would suddenly be awesome

The side, yes, and it is terrible with the little support bracket. I don't recall looking from the the windshield in (I saw a few cars with the screen at my dealer recently). Some is certainly driver preference. I rather have a symmetrical screen in front of the driving position, and then do what you want by the center stack. But regardless, build the damn thing, don't just set it on top.