05-06-2022, 11:45 PM | #45 | |
Captain
1394
Rep 773
Posts |
Quote:
Really disappointed BMW is headed in this direction. But with Tesla and other cars of their ilk being all the rage these days, I guess BMW has to answer to the demands of their consumers to preserve market share. Unfortunately it's the enthusiasts like us who suffer for it.
__________________
2023 G82 M4 Competition / Dravit Grey Ind. / Silverstone/Black Full Merino / Carbon Fiber trim / Bi-color 826M / Executive / M Carbon Ceramic Brakes / Icon Adaptive LED Headlights / M Shadowline Lights / M Carbon Exterior
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-07-2022, 12:36 AM | #47 |
Leave the gun. Take the Canoli.
9109
Rep 7,658
Posts |
To some degree it's like big grilles. All the other manufacturers were going to them and I appreciated that BMW was resisting the group think, until they weren't. Different industries have different trends and for the most part eventually everyone conforms as it's determined to be the norm and the future by the industry.
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-07-2022, 03:58 PM | #48 |
First Lieutenant
228
Rep 338
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-07-2022, 04:11 PM | #49 | |
First Lieutenant
228
Rep 338
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
2
Vinnrox2503021.50 EthanEJC199.50 |
05-07-2022, 05:04 PM | #50 |
Captain
3022
Rep 699
Posts
Drives: 23 M3Cx
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Fort Worth
|
Was able to get to see an i4 at the dealer today. Assuming the M will be the same. I still don't like it. The kickstand really ruins it, makes it look cheaper. They needed to bring the dash up to build it in better- like another brand *cough think Mb E class * MAYBE the M will get a nicer, kickstand lol.
Not sure what I'm going to do; we are all in the same boat, don't want to not get the car I want but I have to stare at that thing. I don't know. What a freakin position to be in. **EDIT Not sure why pics are so blurry, not on my phone like that**
__________________
G80x/Dravit/Carbon Roof/Carbon Exterior/ Bi-Color 826/Shadowline Lasers/Full Silverstone/Vented Seats/Exec. Pack/DAP/PAP/M Drive Pro
|
Appreciate
1
top-down117.00 |
05-07-2022, 07:39 PM | #51 | |
Private First Class
117
Rep 100
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-07-2022, 07:41 PM | #52 | ||
Captain
3022
Rep 699
Posts
Drives: 23 M3Cx
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Fort Worth
|
Quote:
__________________
G80x/Dravit/Carbon Roof/Carbon Exterior/ Bi-Color 826/Shadowline Lasers/Full Silverstone/Vented Seats/Exec. Pack/DAP/PAP/M Drive Pro
|
||
05-08-2022, 12:39 AM | #53 | |
///M ♥ Recycled Dinosaurs
3209
Rep 1,780
Posts
Drives: BMW M4, BMW X5 45e
Join Date: Jul 2021
Location: Seattle, WA
|
Quote:
And just as they were about to go to market, someone called out how ludicrous that was. Which looked like it was followed by a trip to a local electronic store for a screen to screw into what they started off with.
__________________
2022 BMW ///M4 Comp M xDrive (Enzian, Kyalami - insta | youtube | bp featured: Delivery + 963M + 2x Enzian!) | 2021 BMW X5 45e (Carbon Black Metallic, Ivory White)
BMW CCA LIFETIME MEMBER | Past cars: 2016 BMW 435i Gran Coupe (Carbon Black Metallic, Oyster White - Euro-delivery) |
|
Appreciate
3
|
05-08-2022, 01:30 AM | #54 |
Brigadier General
4456
Rep 3,869
Posts
Drives: '23 G80 M3C xDrive; '13 e92 M3
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Southern California
|
Apparently the kickstand is even present on the new X7… looks like it may be here to stay
__________________
2023 G80 M3 Competition xDrive Isle of Man Green on Kyalami Orange full leather - 826M black wheels - Carbon Fiber Trim - Carbon Bucket Seats - Executive/Driving Assist/Parking Packages - Laserlight - M Shadowline Lights - M Drive Pro - CS Trans/Diff/Steering Coding
2013 E92 M3 Mineral White on Bamboo Beige noviello leather (Base w/ Nav, Comfort Access, Lighting Pack) - DINAN Stage 1 and Free Flow Axle-Back Exhaust |
Appreciate
0
|
05-08-2022, 07:27 AM | #55 |
Major
2124
Rep 1,241
Posts |
Just think of the new iDrive 8 dash kick stand design as a weight saving idea....at least 20lbs reduction compared to old dash....
__________________
3/19/22: Deposit placed on MY2023 Skyscraper Grey M3 Comp xDrive / 6/08/22: Dealer order placed - Status 047 / 6/25/22: Added Full Leather / 8/05/22: Received Allocation & Added Personal eSIM 5G / 09/18/22: Asked Dealership to Add M Drive Professional to My Build and They Canceled My Order
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-08-2022, 07:35 AM | #56 |
Captain
1525
Rep 895
Posts |
The more I see this setup, the more disgusted I become. I'm going to reserve my total judgement until I actually see a picture or video of it the MY23 G8x. I'm hoping that they somehow integrate it better or give it some kind of binacle to make it look like a dash board and not just a giant screen. If it looks like those photos from the i4...hard pass. I'll get my deposit back and move to another manufacturer.
|
Appreciate
1
Vinnrox2503021.50 |
05-08-2022, 07:49 AM | #57 | |
Captain
618
Rep 798
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
1
Vinnrox2503021.50 |
05-08-2022, 07:53 AM | #58 |
Brigadier General
6026
Rep 3,310
Posts |
I like screens in cars. I said it out loud at last. I don't know what it is, my inherent geekiness, a life spent in the world of technology, or something. I absolutely acknowledge that one of my favorite things about modern cars is being able to have a 256GB flash drive plugged in with 10,000 FLAC format songs available at all times...and screens are necessary to be able to scroll through that mass of music. I love how good the standard BMW nav system has gotten and I love it having directions in the HUD. The first car I bought had an AM radio stock and screens and all that stuff makes the car feel like the future we were promised, at least to a point.
I don't, however, like being required to POKE screens. I use the iDrive wheel and voice commands a lot more than I ever touch the screens. I use the HVAC controls A LOT. Wheel and voice integrate better with driving a car than poking screens does. However. I may be a geek, but I was taught, way back in the dark ages of the 80's, that visibility and awareness are the most important thing when driving. You can't dodge a rogue Prius running a stop light if you don't see it or you aren't paying enough attention. I've never typed on a phone while the car was moving. If I have a coffee with me, I never sip it unless stopped. Etc... And in 35 years of driving, I've never hit anything. We sat in the i4 and the iX at an auto show in January. From the driver's seat, the screen looks OK but all I could think about was "that's too much light and too many things being displayed to be that high up in my visual field while driving". The iX's screen, perhaps because it was so big, didn't seem as likely to be overwhelming as the i4. When this screen is integrated into the dash as part of the original, initial design, it might be OK but I'm seriously thrilled that I got my car with it's two well-spaced, individual screens when I did instead of ending up with this setup. |
Appreciate
5
|
05-08-2022, 07:55 AM | #59 | |
Captain
3022
Rep 699
Posts
Drives: 23 M3Cx
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Fort Worth
|
Quote:
However, the kickstand in the X7 has a little more substance; it's not hollow in the middle like the one on the i4, still ugly. I'm really hoping they do something different for M cars. But not holding my breath.
__________________
G80x/Dravit/Carbon Roof/Carbon Exterior/ Bi-Color 826/Shadowline Lasers/Full Silverstone/Vented Seats/Exec. Pack/DAP/PAP/M Drive Pro
|
|
Appreciate
1
SaMaster144455.50 |
05-08-2022, 07:57 AM | #60 | |
Major
2124
Rep 1,241
Posts |
Quote:
Just think of the weight savings one gets from the "kickstand" design of the new dash!
__________________
3/19/22: Deposit placed on MY2023 Skyscraper Grey M3 Comp xDrive / 6/08/22: Dealer order placed - Status 047 / 6/25/22: Added Full Leather / 8/05/22: Received Allocation & Added Personal eSIM 5G / 09/18/22: Asked Dealership to Add M Drive Professional to My Build and They Canceled My Order
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-08-2022, 07:58 AM | #61 | ||
Captain
3022
Rep 699
Posts
Drives: 23 M3Cx
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Fort Worth
|
Quote:
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. They should've just left it alone. The lack of physical HVAC controls especially bothers me.
__________________
G80x/Dravit/Carbon Roof/Carbon Exterior/ Bi-Color 826/Shadowline Lasers/Full Silverstone/Vented Seats/Exec. Pack/DAP/PAP/M Drive Pro
|
||
Appreciate
0
|
05-08-2022, 08:04 AM | #62 |
Lieutenant
1109
Rep 570
Posts |
The current interior is perhaps the single biggest reason I have ordered an M4. The performance is awesome, but that can be found in other cars too. I happen to dig the exterior so that is a bonus for me. But when I first sat in a G83, I thought it was superb. Everything feels integrated and built-in, and I rather like that. I don't love the excess of buttons around the shifter, and I don't love the main driver display options, but those nitpicks aside it is near perfect for me. If my 22 order slips to a 23 with this screen, I am 100% out.
|
Appreciate
1
maelfyn156.50 |
05-08-2022, 10:07 AM | #64 |
Private
68
Rep 71
Posts |
Kia bottom pic |
Appreciate
1
LuckyBrand1365.00 |
05-08-2022, 10:22 AM | #65 |
Banned
1137
Rep 662
Posts |
One perk of this tablet screen sitting on top of instead of being incorporated into the dash, is that when it eventually craps out, it'll be easier to remove and replace. And I'm certain this thing will need replacing.
Only silver lining to this incoherent dash design. |
Appreciate
2
Vinnrox2503021.50 akkando5864.50 |
05-08-2022, 10:28 AM | #66 | |
Lieutenant
347
Rep 451
Posts
Drives: 2023 BMW M4 Comp xDrive ; 2021
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Suffolk VA
|
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|