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The BMW meets are great with the BMWCCA in say the San Diego region. A bunch of great down to earth wide range of ages folks. But when I go to any other type of BMW car meet, and I agree 100% I've outgrown that scene. Not quite Camaro scene yet, but it's getting there. Every asshat 25 year old working at a weed dispensary can afford a 2014-2017 M3 now that they "heavily mod bruh" which just means lowering springs and angel eyes and swear it's the same as my F80CS. That shit gets old and tacky really quick. Every Porsche function/meet I have been to made me feel more at home with that crowd, though I am a bit on the younger side of that age group of owners (like you). Those guys just seem to really care about history, driving their cars, and are good quality car enthusiasts. They are also in similar lines of work to me (which I didn't think it would matter until I started trying to relate to a sales associate at Kohl's - not trying to be snobby but we definitely view the world a bit different - but mostly I think it's because I vibe with others in a profession or military/LEO). Honestly, BMWCCA in the San Diego region is the closest I would say to the feeling of the Porsche owners I have had the chance to hang with. Less ricers, and more sophisticated enthusiasts. One thing is true, the owners communities that both BMW and Porsche have are truly second to none. And I love that.
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All that being said the 992 is a purpose built sports car. The m3 is a modified mass produced passenger car. I always keep that in perspective when comparing the two and the m3 is impressive in its own rigjt |
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I truly love cars from a very young age, so none of the prestige factor that some people care about appeals to me. I'm an old soul but only 35 😆 |
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Now, a standard GT3 (of any generation)? Completely and utterly different story. It seems that most M enthusiasts who “graduate” are happiest when they step up to those cars and pair them with a reasonable daily (which is sometimes another M). Getting discounts on regular 911s have been pretty commonplace until very recently with the overall massive shift in the automotive marketplace. They have also depreciated pretty normally (slower than M5/6/8, in line with M3/4), again, until recently. I’d say F8x depreciation is on par with regular 911s still; all boats have risen with the recent tide. The market values GT cars; it’s on those cars that Porsche has built a reputation for modern cars that hold their value extraordinarily well. Let’s be honest, if you drive a regular 911, money is most likely an object. Personally, I’ve driven them over and over and over because I love the idea of a really special car that can credibly be driven daily, but I’ve never come away from a drive sufficiently inspired to write the check. Based on how willingly dealers have been to wheel and deal over the years, I don’t think I’m alone in that. If you’re an enthusiast, you’re probably thinking “save the $50k” or “add $50k and get a GT3, and get a daily beater”. Or, you buy anyway simply to check the Porsche ownership box. Those cars are the M340i of that product line. |
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Thank you for still affirming that a 911 is fantastic and way better. Till you drive one, you won't understand. Once you do, there is no going back. |
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I’m assuming the 992 S box is likely a big improvement over that one (and hopefully has a sports shifter option). Will try to find one to drive to form an opinion on it. Regardless, the delta between that and a 6MT GT3 is probably $60-100k right now for 991.2 and double the money (or greater) for 992. Makes the 992 S 7MT a great deal. I see you’re getting one; nice! Congratulations in advance. |
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Yep, I'm too poor to afford a new 911. Gee, darn. I was, for much of my life, too poor to afford an M3. I was once, 30+ years ago, too poor to afford a car that was less than 40% rust. 75k car or 135k car...both of them are too expensive for most people.
A friend of mine who makes a hair over the median wage for the area just bought her first new car at 45 years of age. A 23k Hyundai Kona. She has massive family expenses due to difficulties a few family members face and was so very thrilled to finally have a car that didn't have millions of miles and dents. She drove over to show it to me and insisted that I take it for a drive. I felt like I was driving a Fisher Price toy (the interior plastics are AWFUL). I did nothing but compliment it and really enjoyed seeing how happy she is. Perspective is a wonderful thing. |
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