M3 Touring - a Dream Comes True. Official World Premiere!

e92ben · 06-21-2022, 11:30 PM

No dream come true for US market, NY buys more m3s then probably half of Europe or more and we still get shafted.

AhsanU · 06-22-2022, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikester19

Cannot understand the concept of a large performance wagon, but I guess it's different strokes for different folks!

For the same reason I chose a performance sedan over a performance coupe - space.

The M3 sedan is pretty much the same as the estate/touring/wagon, but just more space in the back. In terms of performance, the difference in estate and sedan versions of the M3 are likely to be imperceptible to 95% of people that will ever drive one, but the increased space in the estate will be noticed by 100% of people.

We all knew it wasn't coming to the USA - that's fine at this point. It wasn't going to come as a RWD + 6MT if it ever did (as it now has), so I'm excited to eventually convert my G80 into a G81 when life/time/resources allow for it.

mat9 · 06-22-2022, 12:07 AM

Title should be renamed to "A dream comes true for some"
FU BMW!!

G30M · 06-22-2022, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by eljay

I would absolutely take your slow car with a 6-speed slowbox.

lol to me it looks the same, i'd like to think it's got a better looking front lights and grille and a better dash!

but it's slow

lol

MinMax · 06-22-2022, 01:19 AM

Nah I don't get the hype. I like G80 G82 way more than this.
Look at the bright side, just imagine if BMW launch G81 in U.S first then launch G80/G82 after but have them not available in U.S, then what would you all feel?

itsmorich01 · 06-22-2022, 01:56 AM

I think it's time to be a little realistic. It was tough enough to bring the M3 touring to Europe, what fat chance will bmw have to sell it in the states, when they don't even sell the normal G21 there?

The US market have had a major influence with the popularity of SUVs. Estates are a European thing, they sell more G21s in Germany than G20s.

The Americans are getting a bespoke M car for their market. They got the X7, the XM and X5/6. All those cars were primarily aimed at US buyers.

The European market has been neglected for way too long. Let us have the M3 touring please.

G30M · 06-22-2022, 02:04 AM

the marketing video is no different from a Toyota ad

G30M · 06-22-2022, 02:10 AM

listen carefully

JustChris · 06-22-2022, 02:27 AM

Nice.

I'm just here for the US not US comments. It's not happening surely?

Robin_NL · 06-22-2022, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by deemo319

They put canards on a station wagon?

Because racecar. BTCC Volvo 850 (1994?)

Cheers
Robin

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 06-22-2022, 02:51 AM

It's a damn shame they can't bring these over to the US...

FC05 · 06-22-2022, 02:59 AM

Huge disappointment that it doesn't have pano roof as option.

SteveChester · 06-22-2022, 03:04 AM

Nice!

thurston · 06-22-2022, 03:08 AM

Looks like an X3M was stretched horizontally in Photoshop. Proportions look off (at least in this angle). Maybe better in person.

hinckley · 06-22-2022, 03:20 AM

It looks like BMW will retain a traditional shifter for M cars. All other iD8 cars will get that little nubby thing. So I guess that's a positive.

TheStanman · 06-22-2022, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ikester19

Cannot understand the concept of a large performance wagon, but I guess it's different strokes for different folks!

I don't understand why any driving enthusiast would choose a performance SUV over a performance wagon. This offers the same practicality as an X3M but is objectively a better driver's car. Better handling (lower CoG, less weight), more comfortable ride, and better fuel economy.

The only reason SUVs are much more popular than wagons in the US is that decades ago they got a reputation for not being "cool." It's not rational and specific to the US.

kjx · 06-22-2022, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by mat9

Title should be renamed to "A dream comes true for some"
FU BMW!!

Hahaha… I came here to write this. And it was already there.

Not a wagon guy by any stretch but I appreciate it a lot more than I used to with all the threads here. It used to be on the same level as mini-vans for me.

IanW555 · 06-22-2022, 05:17 AM

So excited to upgrade from this to this

530iDriver · 06-22-2022, 05:27 AM

BMWUSA's policy of not importing tourings into the US market is arbitrary, stupid and shortsighted.

They INSIST that US buyers are not interested in station wagons (A lie disproven by MB, Audi and Volvo) and if you want a BMW with a hatch and on stilts your only option are X-Series CUVs and SUVs. I am sure there is also some protectionist policy going on to promote production/sales of Spartanburg, SC made BMW trucks.

BMWUSA in NJ is absolutely wrong on this one.

CSanto · 06-22-2022, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by frankchn

They didn't bring the G21 over, so to bring the G81 over BMW M would have to homologate the whole car for the US market by themselves, which is probably far too expensive for a relatively low-volume seller.

The E63S Wagon and the RS6 both have "normal" variants (the E400/450 wagon and the A6 Allroad) to help share homologation costs with.

Thank you! I didnt know this

530iDriver · 06-22-2022, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FC05

Huge disappointment that it doesn't have pano roof as option.

Why?

Pano sunroofs are prone to rattles

tiefergelegt · 06-22-2022, 05:48 AM

Love this view 😍

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itsmorich01 New Member 12 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 1993 316i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	I think it's time to be a little realistic. It was tough enough to bring the M3 touring to Europe, what fat chance will bmw have to sell it in the states, when they don't even sell the normal G21 there? The US market have had a major influence with the popularity of SUVs. Estates are a European thing, they sell more G21s in Germany than G20s. The Americans are getting a bespoke M car for their market. They got the X7, the XM and X5/6. All those cars were primarily aimed at US buyers. The European market has been neglected for way too long. Let us have the M3 touring please.
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