[Bumpinjeep]

I would love to see what happens with the CSL on actual track tires when it warms up with Randy behind the wheel. I imagine it picks up A BUNCH of time. I've seen first hand what these cars are capable of by professional drivers, the grip levels are insane.

[Needsdecaf]

This video is at least 6 months old and already had a thread on it. Why is it on the front page?

[G30M]

no idea how many seconds slower but V8 & V10 for me

so M5 CS, R8, Z06, Shelby, etc in no particular order

but if you want to race then maybe the 296 for me

[THEROK]

Wet sump with commuter car, tapping out, cost saving engine underpinnings up against Motorsport thoroughbreds continuing to fight the good na fight. Lmao.

BMW M cmon man.

[Hit_Apex]

Originally Posted by g21

no idea how many seconds slower but V8 & V10 for me

so M5 CS, R8, Z06, Shelby, etc in no particular order

but if you want to race then maybe the 296 for me

Very nice. I’d love to have your car budget!

[M4Lou]

Originally Posted by MT6

Cup 2 Rs would have made a big difference and shaved off a few seconds

That - and how did BMW engineers..., "M" engineers let these cars get out w/ the stance it has. You can jam your fist in between the tire and fender. Heck - throw some mild Eibachs on that car and the cup2r's and see what happens.

[sacowich]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

This video is at least 6 months old and already had a thread on it. Why is it on the front page?

Old video. Bummer it bumped my M2 on front page.

Good video though.

“More carbon than a crematorium “

[SigmaShift]

I'd like to see this redone with the M3 CS or upcoming M4 CS on Cup 2's.

[MT6]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

This video is at least 6 months old and already had a thread on it. Why is it on the front page?

Syndication

[Cpatel]

Kinda off topic but is the m4 the same as m3 just with two less doors?

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Cpatel

Kinda off topic but is the m4 the same as m3 just with two less doors?

from what i can see they are very close but the M4 will beat the M3 by a hair in stock setup. but i don't know for sure.

[BackOnBlack]

Woww!!! Apparently, looking at these comments from various ppl, the M4 CSL is such a sh!tty car. I never drove one, so it is good we are learning about BMW should have designed it. No wonder the car really did not sell well; buyers want stance, race tires and unless it beats the supercars, it sucks!

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I recall this was originally posted several weeks/months ago

This video is at least 6 months old and already had a thread on it. Why is it on the front page?

Bimmerpost slowly falling into clickbait territory...

[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by THEROK

Wet sump with commuter car, tapping out, cost saving engine underpinnings up against Motorsport thoroughbreds continuing to fight the good na fight. Lmao.

BMW M cmon man.

Have you seen the changes they made to the S58 oil pan design to deal with track use? It’s a non-issue, if that’s what you were trying to get at. It’s funny that they took the one car that’s highest and tallest off the ground and decided it was acceptable to put it on different tires from the other two… two negatives out the gate, just to be safe. 🙄

[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by SigmaShift

I'd like to see this redone with the M3 CS or upcoming M4 CS on Cup 2's.

The 4WD will help with the squirminess through and out of turns.

[SigmaShift]

Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection

The 4WD will help with the squirminess through and out of turns.

Yes, part of me thinks the M4 CS will be the faster track car than the M4 CSL.

[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by SigmaShift

Yes, part of me thinks the M4 CS will be the faster track car than the M4 CSL.

It’s going to be a weird car because based on what the M3 CS is, technically it’ll be a CSL with a back seat and normal M4 trunk lid and xdrive. Same power, same everything else, just like the M3 CS.

[supershaft]

Originally Posted by vbb

Hagerty does a fantastic job with their video production, so that much I applaud. But they kinda skipped over the real world aspect that you can actually buy an M4 CSL for under $140K without much effort at all, you can maybe find a C8 Z06 with the Z07 package for around $180K lightly used/flipped, and you probably can't get a 992 GT3 RS for less than $400K, maybe closer to $500K. And that's without the whole issue regarding the tires (which they tried to suggest mattered less in cold weather but we all know that once they warmed the tires up the tires were a huge deal).

I love the GT3 RS (and other specialty 911s) but putting them in these comparisons against cars that are 1/3rd their "real world" prices has little entertainment value for me.

you can get GT3 RS for msrp. I'm getting one hopefully by end of summer but with porsche it's a pay to play game so ADM or not you are paying one way or another. In my case I've bought a few cars I've needed but I also need to trade in my GT3 for it.

[GOLFFRR]

always cool production in these videos!

[windtendo]

The Corvette looks like a Ferrari that was ordered off of Wish.

[Hit_Apex]

Originally Posted by SwankPeRFection

It’s going to be a weird car because based on what the M3 CS is, technically it’ll be a CSL with a back seat and normal M4 trunk lid and xdrive. Same power, same everything else, just like the M3 CS.

Yea, exactly like a CSL just heavier is a weird characterization. I’d be surprised if they omit sound deadening on the CS, or use the same solid mounts on the rear subframe. We’ll see how that matters when BMW releases the CS Nurburgring lap time.

[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

Yea, exactly like a CSL just heavier is a weird characterization. I’d be surprised if they omit sound deadening on the CS, or use the same solid mounts on the rear subframe. We’ll see how that matters when BMW releases the CS Nurburgring lap time.

It’s hard to understand why so many people bought a CSL and then turned around and traded them in. I have a feeling many wanted some kind of night and day difference between a Comp and the CSL for the money and what they got wasn’t what they expected. I think those same people bought it on the hype alone as opposed to real passion for the car. In my opinion, the base M4, Comp and CSL were kinda like the old school Integras where the Comp was the GSR and the CSL was the Type R. The upgrades to chassis rigidity, engine, etc. were there and useful, but they weren’t night and day differences. Given the M3 CS is also cheaper than the CSL on paper and yet still provides the same creature comforts of the Comp, BMW might have felt they could do the same with the M4 CS. I believe the M3 CS sold pretty well and is being kept by those buyers more so than the CSL was.