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Sunroof really? If they do a CSL with a sunroof then that's the final nail in the coffin for me and BMW.
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Nurburgring times are fun but Porsche and Mercedes kick our BMW butts. Still, I like the progress BMW is making. Every bit helps making our cars fun to drive.
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04-12-2021, 10:36 AM | #49 |
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I'm surprised they aren't saving the CSL for later in the life cycle. It looks very promising!
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The F82 M4 GTS did a 7:28 factory lap time in 2016. That is a better comparison with the ZL1 |
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For the standard M3/4 Ring times are inconsequential. They are so fast now that most of the performance is unusable on the street 90% of the time. Turning a 7:30 Ring time is absolutely insane for a street car and I would argue that focusing on track times has actually taken away some of the things that make a car enjoyable to drive. Then again, maybe I am just old. |
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The ZL1 is on another planet with 650hp and the 1LE package ruins the car for street use to achieve the lap times. The Goodyear Supercar 3R tires that a ZL1 1LE uses are just barely street legal, take an eternity to warm up, and don't even last a single track day in the hands of a fast driver. I have two customers who wrecked their ZL1 1LEs on lap 1 of their track day because those tires are so sketchy before they heat up. The ZL1 1LE is honestly one of my favorite cars to drive at any price point (I like it more than my previous E92 or F80 M3s) but it's insane to try to compare its laptime to a G80/G82. |
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Here's to hoping they have a better idea of the hood.
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Wow, much more restraint than I thought. Love the big integrated trunk duck tail for a clean look paying huge homage to the E46 CSL design but it’s also really surprising that forego adjustable aero. It looks sick just as the price tag will make me look...
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04-12-2021, 11:30 AM | #59 |
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The 2016 GTS set a 7:28 factory lap time Now the base entry level G82 M4 Comp reportedly laps at 7:28-7:29 What isn't clicking? |
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So they waited for the ugliest M3/4 to be designed to bring back the CSL?
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What isn't clicking is why the M4 isn't faster. As a car labeled a Competition model 7:28-29 is not cutting it for that price point. In 2021 the car should be faster.
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04-12-2021, 11:47 AM | #66 |
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It's as stripped out as you're going to get from the factory. It's obviously missing creature comforts that the Camaro kept intact even in its most performance oriented trim.
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