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We can complain all we want but overall it appears the technical information and communication is starting to trickle down from BMW ///M. The responses in Instagram are also a good communication touch.
It can't be too long to get some driving reviews (early to mid Feb would be my guess). And then customer deliveries mid March. We're almost there. Does anybody know when we should expect communication on the AWD model including technical details, price, offered specs/colors, etc.? It cannot be later than March, can it?!
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Actually it is not. On initial release, for some reason, BMW advertised a significant penalty of 40kg weight for the DCT. It was one of my big gripes with the F8X on initial release. This was later revised to 25kg, which is consistent with what they are showing on the M2 and what was advertised for the E9X. So ZF8 has same penalty as DCT.
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Reading my own thread I see I recalled wrong, DCT penalty is 25kg and not 20kg, same as ZF8. I corrected my previous post.
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TT is an old acronym for TwinTurbo that many folks still use to specify a 911turbo since the 993 generation.
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Thanks and Wow! For me this is a 911 turbo or turbo S. Well, I have to admit you elegantly escaped the weight and turbo threshold issues then altogether and I'am afraid you'll never come back to BMW. The TT is a beast with unmatched control and a real instant hammer. Never considered a decent GT with massive running promo like an M8 competition for about 70% of the TT cost? I believe I know the answer.
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1) N'ring lap times don't mean sh*t! ///M drivers in the PCA red run group are "the sh*t"! (Porsche - take notes and fire your factory drivers!) 2) The G8x will tear the Porsche GT cars a bigger a**hole than the F8x used to. Sometimes I forget that this is a BMW forum and then I see this. Porsche's 'automatic track driving package' (GTx car) is built from the ground up for track duty out of the box (most of them aren't used this way, sadly, but only go back and forth from garage to cars & coffee, but that's an entirely different topic). Could you say that the G8x builders had the same priorities as the GTx car builders? (Jack of all trades but master of none vs. surgical scalpel). That's where the GTx cars are in a different league/realm. Let's give credit and appreciation where it's due.
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Respect your patience. Did BMW release primary information eg weight of the F8X on an earlier timeline vs the delay in BMW releasing primary information for the G8X?
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I mentioned before, BMWblog reported that the AWD G8X will be about 4000 lbs. We including you will have to wait before the actual weight is known. "Though, they won’t be light. As BMW has already shown, even the lightest possible G82 BMW M4 is heavier than the heaviest possible F82 BMW M4. So when equipped with an automatic and all-wheel drive, the new BMW M3 and M4 tip the scales dangerously close to 1,800 kg (4,000-ish lbs)." https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/01/12/u...ing-bmw-m3-m4/ and read here https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/01/11/g82-bmw-m4-heavier/
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Do you frankly believe BMW was not aware of the weight and specs of the G8X and COVID prevented them from knowing this??
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Yes, from what I recall, there was a lot of technical information made available at launch and quickly thereafter for the F8X. It has to be said that there was also marketing BS with the F8X launch, like how they exaggerated down the weight (3,300lb, yeah, right ), there was much discussions and debates around that on the forum. But overall, I got a much more positive vibe from the F8X, the technical specs and marketing campaign resonated with me, which all prompted me to order one before test driving it.
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although you don't address me, allow me to share that bmw as from the launch focussed on the importance of light weight and had it as one of the major innovations from the start. |
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The Biermann led team knew they had all the numbers in their favor. They couldn't wait to go to market because the E9X got outclassed on all meaningful measurables in the F8X. Stronger. Fitter. Faster. Hair Plug Flasch ain't stupid. BMW M knows what bird they have in hand with the G gen. They need to play the PR game by selectively doling out technical specs here and there post-snoutgate. Totally predictable behavior for an automotive athlete that's... Bigger. Fatter. Faster.
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Bigger. Fatter. Faster. Please, until these cars get on the road and gets weighed, this is all speculation and y'all know it. What we do know 100% is it's going to be heavier (M3/4 CSH = Coupe Sport Heavy), bigger sized, more focus on appearances than substance, and a hell of a lot more beaver. Even if it weighed 3400lbs, it's still not winning any beauty contests. Go out of this forum and take a look, you'll see what most people really think about this car. Last edited by OG///M; 01-13-2021 at 12:53 AM.. |
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I hope that "lightweight" crankshaft doesn't sacrifice reliability. The S58 motor seems to be one of the most reliable modern M engines with no catastrophic failures like a crankhub or rod bearings but then again we're only over a year into the S58 so time will tell. It was based on the B58 and I know for a fact that B58's are bulletproof as I racked up 54k miles in a span of two years with nothing besides oil changes. Fingers crossed the S58 lives up to the B58 reliability wise. And yes I know the S58 is a monster with people breaking into 700's easily with bolt ons and tunes. Let's see what happens!
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I've read all 9 pages of this discussion and I feel like the simplest way BMW can settle the conversation is to put their money where their mouth is and let people go drive the G8x M3/M4.
If they have truly been iterated and improved the car materially, irrespective of weight, then the reviews and test drivers will say so. Videos like this are nice technical window dressing but I'd respect Klaus more for coming out and sharing something like "you'll be very happy when you get behind the wheel, we really sweated over this one, long nights, lots of heated arguments - it's really a labour of love". |
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