[buckybadger]

Originally Posted by Greer

Yes, why all the negative comments? The OP has a great car and it looks amazing enjoy!

Yeah exactly, the car is awesome.

[f87club]

Front lip is sick!!

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by robopp

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but no you definitely cannot get more for your ‘18 CS than want you paid for it. They sell for mid 60s now for desirable specs. Best you could do was 20% off when new so 80k. Not even close.

Nice try. I bought mine brand new in 2020 for $80K Canadian ($60K US). Pictured below is one near me. There you go know it all.

[beamlord]

Originally Posted by Kid Eh

Nice try. I bought mine brand new in 2020 for $80K Canadian ($60K US). Pictured below is one near me. There you go know it all.

You bought your f80 M3 CS brand new in 2020? Huh?

[Dr.Crap]

Originally Posted by Kid Eh

Nice try. I bought mine brand new in 2020 for $80K Canadian ($60K US). Pictured below is one near me. There you go know it all.

Congratulations are in order - you seem to have bought a new car 2 years after its production run ended for $33,500 dollars less than the price of the car in your country. I think anyone in that position would probably not make much of a loss!

Also the example of price you give is 1 of 1 on autotrader which is unlikely to be representative of its trade value. However, I would be fascinated to know how much a 1 owner 2020 F80 CS is worth as it's completely unique.

All new cars with the exception of some exotica and GT porsche's make a loss. Even the latter do after a while.

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by beamlord

You bought your f80 M3 CS brand new in 2020? Huh?

The car was sitting on the lot since 2018. Because it was that old it had to be sold as a used car even though it was brand new. There was actually 2 in the city at different dealerships. I had my eye on it for months. Soon as the leaked photos of the G80 came out which was January 2020 I made them an offer and they took it. Two months later COVID hit. That’s the story.

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by Dr.Crap

Congratulations are in order - you seem to have bought a new car 2 years after its production run ended for $33,500 dollars less than the price of the car in your country. I think anyone in that position would probably not make much of a loss!

Also the example of price you give is 1 of 1 on autotrader which is unlikely to be representative of its trade value. However, I would be fascinated to know how much a 1 owner 2020 F80 CS is worth as it's completely unique.

All new cars with the exception of some exotica and GT porsche's make a loss. Even the latter do after a while.

There was no F80 CS in 2020. It was only available in 2018.

[TJR_///M3]

Originally Posted by Teutonic

Lol, this forum starts to look like a gathering of snowflakes. If you post something against, you either can’t afford one, either you hate, either you are whatever.
People today cannot take a comment like a man or accept another opinion. Many look like a bunch of girls around the corner hurt for the comment that their dresses are bad looking.
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And criticism is good for everyone’s sake and any conversation, even contradictory, is in the end, constructive. I would hate a “sterile” kissing but forum.
If you are a snowflake and you can’t take it I feel sorry for you. Grow up.

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I agree that informed debate is to be encouraged, as is constructive criticism and/or expression of dislike.

A little bit of research, however, suggests that a large portion of the aggressive negative comments are from people who are either new to the forum or who have a track record of only making provocative statements, with the apparent intent of invoking an argument and/or upsetting other forum members.
Before anyone takes offense at a post or rises to the bait, I would recommend they look at the provocateur's profile.

[kgelfen360]

It’s weird to think that anyone who likes G80 M3 would have anything negative to say about CS especially if they haven’t even seen or driven it. It’s awesome special addition of G80 of the car this forum loves. Most people won’t be able to get one even if they want and can afford it because it’s limited.
With regards to future price that’s pointless debate. We don’t know how market will play out. Any car that is significantly limited in production like CS in this case is going to have higher value then comparable not limited edition. Will it be worth more or less then MSRP only time will tell.

[burnsniper]

Looks good in Black. Wish it didn’t have the red accents outside though - the badge is particularly cringy.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by Kid Eh

The car was sitting on the lot since 2018. Because it was that old it had to be sold as a used car even though it was brand new. There was actually 2 in the city at different dealerships. I had my eye on it for months. Soon as the leaked photos of the G80 came out which was January 2020 I made them an offer and they took it. Two months later COVID hit. That’s the story.

Strange. Why did it ‘have to be sold as used’? How many miles/km were on it? When did/does the warranty expire?

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by BryanCO

Strange. Why did it ‘have to be sold as used’? How many miles/km were on it? When did/does the warranty expire?

I believe anything that is over 2 years old has to be. Maybe it’s a Canadian thing? There was like 38 km on it. It came with the full 4 year warranty. I also have until Dec 2025 to use the free M driving course you get with it.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by Kid Eh

I believe anything that is over 2 years old has to be. Maybe it’s a Canadian thing? There was like 38 km on it. It came with the full 4 year warranty. I also have until Dec 2025 to use the free M driving course you get with it.

Interesting. I didn’t realize ‘new’ CS’s were available two model years on.

[Kid Eh]

Originally Posted by BryanCO

Interesting. I didn’t realize ‘new’ CS’s were available two model years on.

When I started looking which was mid 2019 there was 3 in Canada. 2 in Ontario and 1 in Quebec. All were Alpine White. They listed for $115,000 up here so that scared a lot of people off and they sat on the lots. I would go to the dealership almost every Sunday just to look at it knowing nobody would be around to break my balls. 😂

[Evinrude1975]

https://youtu.be/F0j68sqgvE8
I’m sure the driver knows how to push the car to its limit

[jm490]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

From someone that’s had every CS, i agree. Imo the M2cs and M5cs have the best steering feel bmw currently offers.

Is there anyway to pin point what changes were made that can be replicated to an M5 comp to enhance the steering close to the CS? Or is it all just fine tuning from the factory that cannot be somewhat replicated with some aftermarket parts?

[TheStanman]

Originally Posted by Dr.Crap

Whilst we all have different reasons for buying the car, if it was about straight line speed, a modded M3x would do the same as a modded CS. I'm pretty sure most people are buying it for the way it allegedly drives especially on the back of how sweet the setup was on the M5 CS compared to the M5C.

Exactly - CS models are not about straght-line speed. They're about chassis feel and driver engagement that have nothing to do with what you see on a spec sheet.

The main question I have is whether M3 CS is successful in the regard like the M2 and M5 CS. Something we'll only gather from subjective reviews.

[TheStanman]

Originally Posted by beamlord

And I call bullshit on "much more substantial", that's just not true. It's certainly a bit faster but not at a level of a "whole different car".
In fact, it drives like the m3 pretty much just feels a bit more agile and that's the weight difference.
Which is great. But it's nothing you would ever experience much on your normal drive, especially with speed limits in the US.

So in your time with the car, you felt BMW was unsuccessful in capturing the CS magic on the M3 like they were with M2 and M5?

If so, that's disappointing. Hopefully we get more journalist and owner reviews soon to get more insight.

[FSociety]

[Dr.Crap]

Originally Posted by TheStanman

Exactly - CS models are not about straght-line speed. They're about chassis feel and driver engagement that have nothing to do with what you see on a spec sheet.

The main question I have is whether M3 CS is successful in the regard like the M2 and M5 CS. Something we'll only gather from subjective reviews.

This is the main reason I want one - driver enagagment and steering feel. I am not too fussed about the extra power as it will be a road car.

However, i think it will feel a lot faster but who knows.

My reasoning for this is comparing dyno's (I know its not the best idea) from the M4 CSL and the M3/4 comp. Now, I have to take the only dyno for the CSL that I could easily find with a pinch of salt but comparativley from about 2000rpm the CSL lays down at least 50hp and 50lb/ft of torque more than the Comp and sometimes a lot more. So the headline peak figures are irrelevant to most as the car will only reach them on occasion. However the extra hp and torque in the lower rev range along with 4wd (which the CSL lacks) will make for a very nippy road car. Looking at the CSL dyno, the car seems to lay down all its max torque by 2800rpm and doesnt drop it until 6000rpm, the CS will identical/similar but with the added traction benefits - unless that dyno was a mildly modded CSL pretending to be stock!

I remember back nearly 18 years ago when BMW released the 335i in 2006 (ish). I bought one thinking I had a junior M3. Then they released the 335d pretty much at the same time with 20-30hp less but much more torque. It was so much better on the road - i was not happy!

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by techbb

The irony is that even car journalists usually aren’t objective, otherwise they would be consistent in their opinions; just the word “opinions” already implies subjectivity. Plus, we tend to value the opinions of car journalists whose views align with our own or what we like; it’s a natural and subconscious thing.

I agree that people are celebrating special cars to them in the same way people bemoan cars that don’t feel special to them. I never quite get why people like the previous person make efforts to deflate others’ excitement. It wreaks of envy.

I hope you get your M3 soon. I’m sure it will feel special when you finally get that call that it’s ready for delivery.

The point is that journalists are subjective. Objectively I can compare the spec sheet of an M5 CS and an M5C and there is little difference. But subjectively, when you drive it, it’s a massive difference. Same with M2 CS to M2C.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by Evinrude1975

https://youtu.be/F0j68sqgvE8
I’m sure the driver knows how to push the car to its limit

Some guy named Ari, what does he know about driving? Need to see Joe Achillies push it to really get an accurate gauge.