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Again, the market is there Whether BMW wants a piece of it or not is the question. Considering the pissing contest between BMW and Mercedes the last few years about which brand sells more, I’d guess they wouldn’t need leave a niche without a model to compete
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A model that sells way less then an M GC I don’t think it’s a matter of cost The effect of lower sales for M3 didn’t stop then from splitting the coupe and sedan into M3 and M4 The business case might not be there for BMW , but that just means extra sales for Audi with no competition from bmw or Mercedes. It’s not a matter of if BMW will make an M GC, it’s a matter of when. Agreed that for Audi there is no RS4 sedan so it’s not an exact match to M4 and M4 GC But if you only had to have 2 models A coupe and sedan doesn’t make as much sense as a sedan and GC Considering that Audi sells more of the sport back than the coupe.
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What is perhaps revealing here, however, is that there is no Z4 M. Quote:
You do have a valid point here, though. Obviously the 3 Series - BMW's most iconic nameplate - is under similar pressure from the 4 Series GC as well. We could also hit closer to home and bring up the M5 and the M8 (and former M6) Gran Coupe. In the latter case, its not even a four door vs. five door competition, making the two even more interchangeable. One thing to remember is that at that price-point you have a lot more margin so your break-even point in terms of absolute sales is significantly less. It doesn't explain everything, but it is an important factor. Quote:
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I guess it would make sense and these days it is a bit weird for M to claim some moral higher ground about "pure sports sedans/coupes" on not having a touring while also buildings M SAVs IMO.
But that wouldn't bring a M3 Touring to the US automatically, due to the fact that all the M SAVs are built in the US whereas the M3 Touring would have to be imported from Europe. I can sympathize with the business decision of going for the SAVs then. I think all Audi RS models are built in Germany anyway, so their US branch has less thinking to do about which models to import. |
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Well, it might look nice, but it's not very realistic I think: The front bumper/grille seems to be from the M440i but it has an M4 badge (the M3/M4 apparently get a different looking front bumper). It also doesn't have the M side mirrors. And finally, it's well known that the 4 series/M3 will have that hood line...
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I see they tried but failed to render the 420d with M Sport Packet.
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Those horizontal pieces in the grille break up the shape a little bit Last thing you want with such a vertically long grille is vertical lines What’s the saying if youre fat don’t wear horizontal stripes
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