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      12-12-2021, 01:46 AM   #111
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      12-12-2021, 02:39 AM   #112
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i respect your job, but i think you must concentrate in aerokits and grilles options for the g80.
i believe most of us will go for the csl grille. bmw must increase production of csl grilles. it will sell like popcorn.

your rear diffuser now looks good the led light.
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      12-12-2021, 02:55 AM   #113
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Just my 2.0 Cents. The 2022 BMW G82 M4 was my first BMW I had ever purchase. I was attracted to the 21/22st centry new look. Since I was never a BMW type person, I wouldn't of purchase the car with the old design and would of purchase a Porsche GT3.
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      12-12-2021, 02:57 AM   #114
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It's way worse.
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      12-12-2021, 03:13 AM   #115
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Its been a while but this has been challenging with all the design constraints due to the amount of space behind the OE bumper and the shape of the hood/bonnet.

I would like to point out this is bumper has been designed to provide an alternative to the OEM just like there have been aftermarket options for the E9X M3, F8X M3 and F87 M2.

We are at the stage where will produce a prototype in carbon fibre and see how it looks on the physical car. For now the renders below are based off the actual CAD of the bumper.

Until we have physically tested it on the car the two small dimples are there to keep the parking sensors in the exact OEM position. We will see if this can be adjusted. The bottom lip is separate from the bumper so can be finished in carbon, painted body colour or gloss black allowing for individual finishes.

















Good start, but the grills now look too small for the size of car, maybe slightly larger grills then in the prototype would resolve it.

I did see another M3 which are very rare - likely due to grill and it looks like a monstrosity. My eye was drawn to the Honda CRV which was beside it as it looked less ugly. lol
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      12-12-2021, 04:00 AM   #116
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Not bad. Way less ugly than the stock bumper. That’s crazy to think that a market is developing that aims to correct the ugliness of BMW’s new design language
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      12-12-2021, 06:17 AM   #117
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Personally, I find the 'correction' of this design feature tired and old. It's been over a year since the cars were launched, yet here we are.

It's a very bold design from BMW, definitely no one would mistake the G8X when they see that fascia breathing down in their rear view mirror. An unmistakable fascia.
Trying to address the front-end design isn't going anywhere. It grew on some people which is great, but many potential buyers still do not llike it and will look for a solution for years to come. BMW knew this - their internal research showed that most people dislike it.

I don't think most have an issue with it being bold. It's the lack of cohesion and applies to the whole front fascia, not just the grille.

Evolve - I really appreciate the effort but agree with sentiments that it doesn't look quite fully resolved in current state. I think the issue is the lower fascia and flat strip below grille. I like Boogie2121's render and using M8 front-end. But I realize designing it for real-world use is much more complicated than that. Keep it up!
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      12-12-2021, 06:30 AM   #118
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In general my issue with BMW's current design is they seem to be going for shock value. It also feels like it's designed in parts rather led by a single vision. Someone designs the front, the rear, side profile, etc and then slap it all together.

It's an extremely hard time to be an OEM, managing your legacy ICE business while investing billions in EV and autonomy. All while brand new EV players enter with cost advantage of selling direct with no franchise network.

I think their focus is understandably elsewhere and shock value design is an easy way to standout.

I'm sure many will disagree but that's my take. I work with dealers and OEMs on the automotive future and it's clear that their focus is elsewhere.
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      12-12-2021, 07:52 AM   #119
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And gaining a whole bunch of new clients myself included.

All this thread is accomplishing is inviting board trolls. (Not necessarily you) Haven’t we already been through this already? I think I will sign up for the Corvette forum and go tell them all how stupid looking their Corvettes are.
If you are a longtimeCorvette fan, and the new one is not appealing to you, do it.
Otherwise, your comment is just nonsense.
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      12-12-2021, 07:57 AM   #120
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It’s not nonsense at all. At this point in time all people are doing is purposely coming here to aggravate, insult and mock people who like, or have purchased, or are planning to purchase a G8X. Read the posts. It’s pure 100%, unapologetic trolling. All you can do at this point is say you have every right to do that here and I guess I have no argument against that.
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      12-12-2021, 09:16 AM   #121
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prior design kit is the only way to go imo
this front is what g80/g82 should have been the design!
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      12-12-2021, 09:28 AM   #122
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this front is what g80/g82 should have been the design!
So the new M3 really should just be an M8? Got it.
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      12-12-2021, 09:46 AM   #123
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Yeah, i dunno bro, the splash page of the biggest BMW homer forum on the interwebs shows 2 different 'fixes' for the front fender…..if you can find any similar post(s) from a prior gen, happy to look at it with you….But, as i recall (like, from being there at the time), most of the 'mods' discussions on prior gens were about sound, performance or mild visual effects, not a wholesale re-do of the front.

That's great it is selling well (though i guess I'll need sales numbers, not 'how many months it took to receive' to make that really stick). But something can sell in spite of how it looks, not because of it you know…..
Its already setting sales records for the M3 even with the chip shortage. This is well known. Try and get an allocation. It ain’t easy. I get it. The purists don’t like it. It is successful despite that. Just like the new Corvette being successful despite the Vett purists being unhappy about the changes.

Either way this grille conversation is getting stupid. I’m sure we can all agree on that. At least the reasonable non trolls and people that like it can.
I'm sure it will go away. Just like everybody stopped talking about the Chris Bangle M5s…..

The fact is, how the car looks matters. There is FAR more discussion about how this car looks than any other M3/M4. Ever. And by a LOT.

Whether or not I like the look (personal opinion: looks not great on lighter coloured cars, looks ok on darker ones) the fact is: its controversial as hell and that isn't going to stop just because those who bought a G8X wish it would.
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PRIOR DESIGN KIT is the only way to go imo
Damn, why couldn't the G22 and/or the G42 be this?? Why does BMW have to design a Gigi Hadid and put a big wart at the end of her nose??
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So the new M3 really should just be an M8? Got it.
Haha exactly
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      12-12-2021, 10:36 AM   #126
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It’s not nonsense at all. At this point in time all people are doing is purposely coming here to aggravate, insult and mock people who like, or have purchased, or are planning to purchase a G8X. Read the posts. It’s pure 100%, unapologetic trolling. All you can do at this point is say you have every right to do that here and I guess I have no argument against that.
You got it wrong. It is a forum.
All of the people that are here are fans and express their opinion. If you see it as an insult, that’s your problem.

Not last, the subject is exactly a new bumper that is made to replace the factory one, hence addresses exactly the controversial new face.
This is a page FOR the unhappy ones not for the happy ones.
And the fact that is a prime page article attracts more people that usually won’t visit that particular model’s forum.

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The hood creates too many design constraints and annoying emphasis on the kidneys..
Fixing the front will require redesigning the hood as-well.

I hope, that there will be at least one company who'll offer that, maybe even including a new rear bumper and diffusor.. because BMW failed here as-well.
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I don't think it's a weak position at all. People don't generally spend $80k+ on something they don't like (…although G8X critics would love to suggest otherwise). People will barely spend $10 on something they don't like, but we're expected to presume that buyers purchase G8X's they don't like because there's nothing else to buy?!? That's just ridiculously asinine logic. Just because the industry is affected by a shortage is irrelevant. I can go to an Alfa Romeo dealership right now, for example, and have a nice selection to choose from. Why? Because the cars aren't sought after, chip shortage or not.
False, allocations for Quadrifoglios are rare. There are almost no cars coming from Italy and people are paying full MSRP.

Nice try.
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      12-12-2021, 01:03 PM   #129
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And while we're at it, lets switch from electricity to candles and fire. Why would anyone spend what will undoubtedly cost $1-2k to make the car look like an older model.
If in the future I am shopping for a G8X and its got an aftermarket bumper, unless the stock is included I will not consider it.
In any case cheers to this company for their work.
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PRIOR DESIGN KIT is the only way to go imo
I agree.
Elegant yet aggresive. Gorgeous.
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      12-12-2021, 01:49 PM   #131
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I don't think it's a weak position at all. People don't generally spend $80k+ on something they don't like (…although G8X critics would love to suggest otherwise). People will barely spend $10 on something they don't like, but we're expected to presume that buyers purchase G8X's they don't like because there's nothing else to buy?!? That's just ridiculously asinine logic. Just because the industry is affected by a shortage is irrelevant. I can go to an Alfa Romeo dealership right now, for example, and have a nice selection to choose from. Why? Because the cars aren't sought after, chip shortage or not.
False, allocations for Quadrifoglios are rare. There are almost no cars coming from Italy and people are paying full MSRP.

Nice try.
I didn't specify that model. Nice try!
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I'm sure it will go away. Just like everybody stopped talking about the Chris Bangle M5s…..

The fact is, how the car looks matters. There is FAR more discussion about how this car looks than any other M3/M4. Ever. And by a LOT.

Whether or not I like the look (personal opinion: looks not great on lighter coloured cars, looks ok on darker ones) the fact is: its controversial as hell and that isn't going to stop just because those who bought a G8X wish it would.
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You got it wrong. It is a forum.
All of the people that are here are fans and express their opinion. If you see it as an insult, that’s your problem.

Not last, the subject is exactly a new bumper that is made to replace the factory one, hence addresses exactly the controversial new face.
This is a page FOR the unhappy ones not for the happy ones.
And the fact that is a prime page article attracts more people that usually won’t visit that particular model’s forum.
That gentleman is a complete total bunch of Barbra Streisand and you know it. At this point in time it is nothing more than trolling. This is the G80 sub forum. I’m sure you both have made your opinions abundantly clear for the last year but you couldn’t help come here and continue it. You know what I’m saying is 100% factual so please stop pretending it’s not.

Two minutes later I come back and add this. Please understand there is no truly accurate way to calculate how much I don’t care what other people think. It’s just this is way beyond beating a dead horse at this point and I’m calling you both out as knowing that but not caring. I think at this stage people who continue to bash it enjoy aggravating or attempting to aggravate others. We are well past expressing an opinion. At this stage of the game we accurately call it trolling. Rant over.
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