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F1x M5/M6 had the -53BZ variant, also seen in N54 cars. 550i clutch is a common upgrade on N54s. Note these main units have also different four-letter suffixes and there are multiple part numbers even for one car. lemetier can I summon you and ask you to shed some light on this cause I remember you saying G8x has the new modular Magna 6MTI550 (7MT version found in Bronco, "MT88"). On the surface, F8x and G8x units look the same to me. And MTI550 is rated to 7,000 rpm only.
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02-15-2021, 07:38 PM | #178 | ||
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Some may be somewhat disappointed (and complain on message boards) they don't get the same power rating as the auto but if one loves 3 pedals I can't see trading over to auto just for a few more HP and tq. |
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By the way, keep in mind that they keep designing and engineering a moonroof for the M3 and how few people take that? |
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The sunroof is a perfect example, though it doesn't support your point, in fact the opposite. The sunroof is just a direct transplant from the series car it has no extra investment. bmw doesn't offer a sunroof in the carbon fiber roof because any customer that really wants a sunroof isn't going to pass on the sunroof because they have to settle for the steel roof. |
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Maybe it's me but after years of driving manual equipped Mazda, Honda, Dodge, Mitsubishi, Subaru, Ford, VAG, etc I found the 6 speed in the M2 was really good. If Porsche is your standard for manual transmissions then you are probably going to be disappointed with everything else.
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02-18-2021, 10:10 PM | #186 | ||
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I'd still choose the RWD manual but between not being available in the Comp and AWD, I predict less manuals sold on the G80. |
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02-18-2021, 10:46 PM | #187 | |
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It seems, BMW is allocating to what they think the take rate will be. Unless this system changes - there is not going to be a manual surplus. |
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02-19-2021, 12:13 AM | #188 | |
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02-21-2021, 08:38 AM | #190 |
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Low torque numbers are a concern especially since it is available at higher rpm vs f80 m3. If you drive x3m you really feel the lack of torque down low and its with torque converter in auto.
Tuning is a tough excuse. Based on this thread you are just passing the cost of gear box upgrade and clutch upgrade to the customer. If the tune can even be done on the locked ecus- not only you are going to loose warranty - you are going to burn clutches and trans until you upgrade it 9 if upgrade is even available) |
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S58 makes huge power with a tune and especially with a handful of other upgrades so at some point you'll need a stronger clutch but don't doubt the durability and strength of the stock parts. F80 has proven the 6MT setup can take a lot of abuse. |
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6MTI550 is Magna's designation for the family (6 Speed Manual Trans Inline Torque Input at rated speed). Lower speed = higher torque, higher speed = lower torque. |
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