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Why worry about what the dang thing is called? So what if the heavier AT AWD car has higher numbers. P/W ratio is where it's at and they're all gonna be amazing to drive. I'm lusting after an AWD M3. The"base" is still ridiculous good hp. Comp for you overachieving knuckleheads.
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Thanks! Glad to hear that higher performance versions with MxDrive ant a 6MT might still be a possibility...
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M3 Pure will probably be at least 150 lbs lighter than Base or Comp. If it is a unique S58 for that model, makes me wonder if it is a lighter engine due to materials or something.
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Nobody thinks manuals are better performance anymore. That ship sailed long ago. But the experience of driving a car is more fun to me with a manual transmission, and almost no amount of power will change that equation.
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A transmission is designed to withstand a certain amount of stress in order to be reliable under all conditions for some amount of miles. Exceeding that stress reduces performance or increases the likelihood of failure. Period. Either BMW is willing to accept that increased risk of failure, or they will need to improve the design. It's called a safety factor, and it's a basic tenant of engineering. You have no way of knowing what the design limits of this trans are or what it would take to handle the extra 46hp.
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Would you consider that "some amount of miles"? Ya. I would So it's safe to say that extra 46hp ain't doing shit. |
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The pure concept sounds good but odd that it will have a lot less power assuming these reports are true. It may as well be an F80.2 with the same power unless there are substantial improvements to weight reduction, chassis, suspension, etc.
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Base and Pure (manual option) should have the same power figures (and ~25hp higher than ZCP today). and released 1-2 years before the Competition.
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We may guess 510hp (CS), 555hp (GTS) based on the percentage gained from G80/G82 (Competition) over current F80/F82 models? Would be interesting to see the torque figure for upcoming M models. We're probably not too far from seeing 0-62 in sub 2.75s. Last edited by Mii; 01-28-2019 at 09:20 PM.. |
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