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First Neue Klasse test vehicles roll off line at BMW Plant Debrecen
Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Debrecen. BMW Group Plant Debrecen in Hungary is shifting into first gear: Production of test vehicles is ramping up and the first near-series fully-electric X models for the Neue Klasse are now leaving the production line.* This marks the beginning of the final preparation phase for the start of series production in late 2025. “The production of the first test vehicles in Debrecen is an important milestone in commissioning the new plant,” says Milan Nedeljković, member of the Board of Management of BMW AG responsible for Production. With vehicles now approaching series maturity, all logistics and production processes at the plant are being tested and constantly optimised under real conditions to ensure a smooth start of series production. On the road to series production The integration of new models in a plant starts with the production of near-series vehicles – an important step for the preparation of series production in Debrecen. As part of this process, test vehicles cycle through all production steps. This also means that all logistics processes, manufacturing equipment and operations performed by employees at the plant already have to function smoothly. These operations are just as complex as in actual series production. Despite the limited number of parts involved, they must still be made available in the appropriate logistics processes. Materials and vehicle parts are delivered daily to Plant Debrecen, with test vehicles coming off the production line on a continuous basis. Every part and every production step is closely scrutinised. Special attention is paid to validation of cutting-edge production systems and tools, including their digital connectivity. Running system tests for the future vehicle model helps identify further potential for optimisation. In the coming months, the focus will be on refining processes, based on the insights gained. During this phase, new staff will also undergo intensive training on the installations and machinery. Close cooperation across all areas of production will ensure operations are seamlessly integrated for a smooth and successful series launch.
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Looking forward to the reveal of these.
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Factory looks awesome. BMW may have the best chance to catch up to Tesla’s EV sales volume if this platform is stellar. (Outside of BYD.)
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I think having this dedicated platform plus the fact it will have the NACS connector (formerly Tesla connector), it will have a real fighting chance to compete with Tesla. The only benefit Tesla had was its charging network and now everyone can pretty much use it with the introduction of NACS
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No one wants an EV. I'm really happy they will have ICE versions of these. I like the design language in the concepts.
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True. But with the new US stance toward EVs I think the advantages here will disappear. Even with the tariffs which I doubt the administration will levy on European automakers. Plus BMW has a massive advantage on financing and leasing rates. The Y pricing should be the main objective but BMW could price $10k above and people would buy it instead imho.
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Fair. I certainly have zero interest as an enthusiast. I know a single person in my life who owns An EV. Anecdotally, no one I know, enthusiast or not, wants an EV (except that one guy lol). Especially as incentives disappear. Look at the second hand market on any EV. You can get a turbo s taycan for like 75% under msrp. If people wanted them, they wouldn't be so cheap, IMO.
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I have an iXM60 and almost everyone I know and nearly all my neighbors have 1 EV. It’s the commuter car and the enthusiast car is also in the garage. You’ll eventually be a late adopter. Btw I’m on my third EV. First one broke even, second one lost 30% in 2 years (model Y, so not a huge financial hit, blame it on Tesla price drops). This one is leased. Last edited by Bimmerfun82; 11-20-2024 at 05:43 PM.. |
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Certainly possible. The idea of getting a $180k Porsche for $70k is not, not tempting.
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And there will be no ICE version of these. Thankfully the NK platform wont be compromised.
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Does BMW sell the 5-series to compete with the Camry or Sonata? No.
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That article is basically an opinion piece: “If BMW wants its Neue Klasse architecture to succeed, the upcoming iX3 must beat the Model Y as the public's favorite.” This statement is dumb. It’s like saying the 3-series is a failure because it doesn’t sell as many cars as the Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla.
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The iX was already on a dedicated platform. So is the Taycan and they all are way behind Tesla. If you want more luxury and even more capability, Lucid vastly outperforms anything that Porsche Mercedes or BMW have even in their 10 year plans. Tesla, Rivian, Lucid and the Chinese are in a completely different playing field than the Europeans and Japanese.
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Tesla sold 1.75 million. I don’t understand your logic. BMW can absolutely catch up to Tesla. Last edited by Bimmerfun82; 11-20-2024 at 07:30 PM.. |
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The average middle class or upper middle class or even lower upper class person isn't going to have a car just for commuting, while having other cars at home for other uses. All that said, I think the EV industry will be better off without tax credits and without any sort of mandates or implied mandates (like CAFE). Then the automakers will actually start building the best products they can, vs the fastet to market ones they can. They'll start to realize that dedicated EV platforms are a waste of money, and the correct way to do EVs is a modular platform that works as a ICE, PHEV, or BEV without any reconfiguration. |
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