[wasya152]

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The M4 did pretty well in this one

[Bimmerfun82]

The M4CS is a monster and performance-wise lines up with the 992 GTS. One observation is just how big most of these sports cars are. I sat in a 718 cayman today and a 992 GTS, and it’s just eye opening how big the new 911 is, and it feels almost luxurious compared to the 718. Speaking of which, I’d put the 718 GTS, GT4, and Spyder at the top of “lively feel and engagement” and around this track I’m wondering why they didn’t insert the GT4RS into the mix. The s/t is unobtainium, but there are 100 718GT4RS out there. Sure they’re $200k+, but they’re available. Anyway, if you’re going to track a car and use it for daily the m4 wins hands down.

[T0RM3NT]

Originally Posted by wasya152

The M3 did pretty well in this one

M4 CS?

[DocWeatherington]

Awesome post and video

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Awesome post and video

Agreed…

[marseille82]

One day I’ll be able to afford a 911 of my dream. One day 😅

['Cane]

M3? 🤷🏻‍♂️

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by marseille82

One day I’ll be able to afford a 911 of my dreams
One day very soon

Edited that…

Great attitude…

[TheMediumLebowski]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

The M4CS is a monster and performance-wise lines up with the 992 GTS. One observation is just how big most of these sports cars are. I sat in a 718 cayman today and a 992 GTS, and it’s just eye opening how big the new 911 is, and it feels almost luxurious compared to the 718. Speaking of which, I’d put the 718 GTS, GT4, and Spyder at the top of “lively feel and engagement” and around this track I’m wondering why they didn’t insert the GT4RS into the mix. The s/t is unobtainium, but there are 100 718GT4RS out there. Sure they’re $200k+, but they’re available. Anyway, if you’re going to track a car and use it for daily the m4 wins hands down.

Having owned two 718s including a 2023 GT4, the biggest problem is the interior/tech is so dated compared to the 992 and G80. Porsche didn't even bother knowing they were retiring the platform and transitioning to electric.

I would take a G80 over any 718 including a GT4RS and a 992 GT3 over either.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by TheMediumLebowski

Having owned two 718s including a 2023 GT4, the biggest problem is the interior/tech is so dated compared to the 992 and G80. Porsche didn't even bother knowing they were retiring the platform and transitioning to electric.

I would take a G80 over any 718 including a GT4RS and a 992 GT3 over either.

I don’t mind your choice, but it’s funny I’m going to the opposite direction. I had two g80’s and now have a Mercedes with this crazy futuristic setup. But I’m waiting on delivery of my 718 GTS. Going back in time and honestly it’s one of the reasons I’m excited about it - for buttons and switches, nobody is better than Porsche! I also believe the g80 is numb compared to the 718 platform.

[TheMediumLebowski]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I don’t mind your choice, but it’s funny I’m going to the opposite direction. I had two g80’s and now have a Mercedes with this crazy futuristic setup. But I’m waiting on delivery of my 718 GTS. Going back in time and honestly it’s one of the reasons I’m excited about it - for buttons and switches, nobody is better than Porsche! I also believe the g80 is numb compared to the 718 platform.

Don't get me wrong, the 718 is a great car to drive. The 4L engine in the GTS is great fun (although I've only driven the discontinued GT4 variant). The handling is completely different from a G80 and a blast to drive.

Congrats on the GTS! What spec did you order?

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I don’t mind your choice, but it’s funny I’m going to the opposite direction. I had two g80’s and now have a Mercedes with this crazy futuristic setup. But I’m waiting on delivery of my 718 GTS. Going back in time and honestly it’s one of the reasons I’m excited about it - for buttons and switches, nobody is better than Porsche! I also believe the g80 is numb compared to the 718 platform.

You are not going to regret it, my friend…

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by TheMediumLebowski

Don't get me wrong, the 718 is a great car to drive. The 4L engine in the GTS is great fun (although I've only driven the discontinued GT4 variant). The handling is completely different from a G80 and a blast to drive.

Congrats on the GTS! What spec did you order?

Thanks! 718 gts4.0 boxster 6MT in ice grey metallic and all the goodies

[My M3]

Great outcome for the M4 considering what is up against

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Thanks! 718 gts4.0 boxster 6MT in ice grey metallic and all the goodies

i read somewhere you only need the first 2 gears to drive the 718.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by G30M

i read somewhere you only need the first 2 gears to drive the 718.

Up to about 85 mph on the manual GTS4.0, yes- if red-lining is your thing. PDK has better gearing and the GT4RS has even more optimized gearing

[clutchdj]

Originally Posted by G30M

i read somewhere you only need the first 2 gears to drive the 718.

yes, on the street. its a different animal though. it doesn't weigh much therefore the 3 pedal car's gearing never really bothered me. I would say it's in-between being a momentum car and a very fast car (on the track). 4th was the best gear for cruising and just listening to the flat 6. I had a 718 gt4 for short while.

[moriluvatar]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

yes, on the street. its a different animal though. it doesn't weigh much therefore the 3 pedal car's gearing never really bothered me. I would say it's in-between being a momentum car and a very fast car (on the track). 4th was the best gear for cruising and just listening to the flat 6. I had a 718 gt4 for short while.

I can comment on this one.

The 718 with manual is in theory my perfect toy, I mean come on, Porsche has it dialed in with this one. Sure there might be some older interior design elements, but that only helps feeling connectedness. And as a big and tall guy, even though it's small outside, there's a ton more room than in the Miata, which makes it comfortable.

But pretty much within a few months I realized just how little it's just me driving without a destination, or without at least one passenger and a bit of luggage. I know, I know, relative to other cars Porsche storage is top tier, but in absolute terms it's just too small. I need the sedan set up so that there's enough practicality to use it regularly (not daily mind you, just enough to avoid garage queening).

I hope you'll have an amazing experience with yours and won't run into that challenge of always being the one you want to drive, yet somehow most of the time taking out something else when the time comes.



(Who knows, maybe someday I'll be able to convince the wife to let the girlfriend sit on her lap and we'll be back to just 2 seats. j/k)

[TheJerseyDon]

Originally Posted by TheMediumLebowski

Having owned two 718s including a 2023 GT4, the biggest problem is the interior/tech is so dated compared to the 992 and G80. Porsche didn't even bother knowing they were retiring the platform and transitioning to electric.

I would take a G80 over any 718 including a GT4RS and a 992 GT3 over either.

Tech is so old that in the EU it has a stop sale order due to the lack of cybersecurity compliance. This was the only reason i go mine at a bit of a discount. They where eager to sell remaining allocation in the US.

[///M TOWN]

I pick the 911 S/T over the CS

Forget the back seats I don’t need to accommodate anyone that badly I’d rather have them follow me then drive them around

[Tallest]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

The M4CS is a monster and performance-wise lines up with the 992 GTS. One observation is just how big most of these sports cars are. I sat in a 718 cayman today and a 992 GTS, and it’s just eye opening how big the new 911 is, and it feels almost luxurious compared to the 718. Speaking of which, I’d put the 718 GTS, GT4, and Spyder at the top of “lively feel and engagement” and around this track I’m wondering why they didn’t insert the GT4RS into the mix. The s/t is unobtainium, but there are 100 718GT4RS out there. Sure they’re $200k+, but they’re available. Anyway, if you’re going to track a car and use it for daily the m4 wins hands down.

Cayman is a fantastic car and is much more fun to drive for me, than the 992. If you want a fun tossable 911, you need to go to the 997 and older.

[hotrod182]

Well, you would expect the 911, M3, and Maclaren, to be a step above the Toyota, VW, Hyundai, Mustang, etc. Seems a glaring omission to not include the Corvette?