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      09-20-2024, 06:50 AM   #1
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M4 CS Acceleration Test: 0-260 kmh (162 mph)

BMW M4 CS Acceleration Test: 0-260 kmh (162 mph) by Motorsport Magazine

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      09-20-2024, 08:32 AM   #2
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100-200 km/h around 7 sec is impressive. It is very fast. Like the color as well.
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Doing that with a 6 sylnder engine is just insane
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What would that look like in a zero to sixty?
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What would that look like in a zero to sixty?
3.1 to 62 --- is probably 2.9 or 3.0

And no stupid car and driver roll out
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So 0-400m is…?
If 0-1000m is 20,2 seconds
Then 0-400 is around 8 seconds?!?
That can’t be right
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Someone will eventually dyno one of these. Considering they upped the power of the lower models, do you honestly believe the M4 CS doesn’t probably put out a little more than expected? All the CSLs are already sold, so they’re not cannibalizing their own sales if the M4 CS is more potent.
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So 0-400m is…?
If 0-1000m is 20,2 seconds
Then 0-400 is around 8 seconds?!?
That can’t be right
It’s likely around 10.8-10.9 to 400m.
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Amazing car in amazing color. Good job BMW
With respect to all M3CS owners (and congrats for owning this fantastic car) I believe we are missing the point for this car.
I see lots of posts / discussions regarding the 0-60 and 1/4 mile for M3CS but I believe the purpose of this car is not just 0-60.
I mean if 0-60 is that important thing in car performance world you can get a Tesla Plaid and smoke most of the supercars including Ferrari, Mclaren, Lambo , etc and still save 30-40k money over M3CS.
Plaid is over 30% faster than M3CS in 0-60 battle (2 seconds vs 3 seconds) ... but still this is not the point!

Per BMW claim, "low weight" M3CS is born and made for track (probably that's why it doesn't have cupholder and proper armrest ); however it can be perfect DD car.
All components including powertrain, suspension, body and even seats are tuned for track and not for straight line.
I would like to see more track related posts and comparison for M3CS but so far I have just seen these numbers:

Nurburgring lap times.
1. M4 CSL: 7:17.00 - 551 PS / 1619 Kg
2. M3 CS : 7:27..19 - 551 PS / 1760 Kg
3. M4 GTS : 7:27.88 - 500 PS / 1600 Kg
4. M4 Competition xDrive: 7:28.57 - 517 PS / 1772 Kg
5. M4 Competition: 7:30:79 - 510 PS / 1725 Kg

Conclusions:
1. G8x M3CS is 10 seconds slower than G8x M4CSL
2. G8x CS is 0.7 seconds faster than 6 years old F8x M4 GTS
3. G8x CS is 1.5 seconds faster than G8x M4 Competition xDrive!
4. G8x CS is 3.5 seconds faster than G8x M4 Competition
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife

My guess is 2025 M3 Competition xDrive with 20 hp pump in power and CF seats / brakes should be in pair with M3CS

Finally this is what BMW website has published for M3CS
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...dschleife.html
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      09-20-2024, 01:49 PM   #12
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Amazing car in amazing color. Good job BMW
With respect to all M3CS owners (and congrats for owning this fantastic car) I believe we are missing the point for this car.
I see lots of posts / discussions regarding the 0-60 and 1/4 mile for M3CS but I believe the purpose of this car is not just 0-60.
I mean if 0-60 is that important thing in car performance world you can get a Tesla Plaid and smoke most of the supercars including Ferrari, Mclaren, Lambo , etc and still save 30-40k money over M3CS.
Plaid is over 30% faster than M3CS in 0-60 battle (2 seconds vs 3 seconds ) ... but still this is not the point!

Per BMW claim, "low weight" M3CS is born and made for track (probably that's why it doesn't have cupholder and proper armrest ); however it can be perfect DD car.
All components including powertrain, suspension, body and even seats are tuned for track and not for straight line.
I would like to see more track related posts and comparison for M3CS but so far I have just seen these numbers:

Nurburgring lap times.
1. M4 CSL: 7:17.00 - 551 PS / 1619 Kg
2. M3 CS : 7:27..19 - 551 PS / 1760 Kg
3. M4 GTS : 7:27.88 - 500 PS / 1600 Kg
4. M4 Competition xDrive: 7:28.57 - 517 PS / 1772 Kg
5. M4 Competition: 7:30:79 - 510 PS / 1725 Kg

Conclusions:
1. G8x M3CS is 10 seconds slower than G8x M4CSL
2. G8x CS is 0.7 seconds faster than 6 years old F8x M4 GTS
3. G8x CS is 1.5 seconds faster than G8x M4 Competition xDrive!
4. G8x CS is 3.5 seconds faster than 6 years old G8x M4 Competition

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife

My guess is 2025 M3 Competition xDrive with 20 hp pump in power and CF seats / brakes should be in pair with M3CS

Finally this is what BMW website has published for M3CS
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...dschleife.html

Cayenne an SUV did it in 7:38.925

Not impressed with the CS time.
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Amazing car in amazing color. Good job BMW
With respect to all M3CS owners (and congrats for owning this fantastic car) I believe we are missing the point for this car.
I see lots of posts / discussions regarding the 0-60 and 1/4 mile for M3CS but I believe the purpose of this car is not just 0-60.
I mean if 0-60 is that important thing in car performance world you can get a Tesla Plaid and smoke most of the supercars including Ferrari, Mclaren, Lambo , etc and still save 30-40k money over M3CS.
Plaid is over 30% faster than M3CS in 0-60 battle (2 seconds vs 3 seconds) ... but still this is not the point!

Per BMW claim, "low weight" M3CS is born and made for track (probably that's why it doesn't have cupholder and proper armrest ); however it can be perfect DD car.
All components including powertrain, suspension, body and even seats are tuned for track and not for straight line.
I would like to see more track related posts and comparison for M3CS but so far I have just seen these numbers:

Nurburgring lap times.
1. M4 CSL: 7:17.00 - 551 PS / 1619 Kg
2. M3 CS : 7:27..19 - 551 PS / 1760 Kg
3. M4 GTS : 7:27.88 - 500 PS / 1600 Kg
4. M4 Competition xDrive: 7:28.57 - 517 PS / 1772 Kg
5. M4 Competition: 7:30:79 - 510 PS / 1725 Kg

Conclusions:
1. G8x M3CS is 10 seconds slower than G8x M4CSL
2. G8x CS is 0.7 seconds faster than 6 years old F8x M4 GTS
3. G8x CS is 1.5 seconds faster than G8x M4 Competition xDrive!
4. G8x CS is 3.5 seconds faster than G8x M4 Competition
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife

My guess is 2025 M3 Competition xDrive with 20 hp pump in power and CF seats / brakes should be in pair with M3CS

Finally this is what BMW website has published for M3CS
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/topics/maga...dschleife.html
You're either confused, or misinformed. Either way, you forgot to mention the M4 CS, the car in the video, in any of your ring lap times.

The M4 CS does it 4 seconds slower than the M4 CSL, at 7:17:215

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You're either confused, or misinformed. Either way, you forgot to mention the M4 CS, the car in the video, in any of your ring lap times.

The M4 CS does it 4 seconds slower than the M4 CSL, at 7:17:215

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Well all the numbers I put here is regarding to M3CS and I consider M4CS the same performance of M3CS.
BMW have the number for M3CS on website but I couldn't find anything for M4CS on their website.
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Well all the numbers I put here is regarding to M3CS and I consider M4CS the same performance of M3CS.
BMW have the number for M3CS on website but I couldn't find anything for M4CS on their website.
Well then, you can always go back and edit your comment to reflect the true numbers. After all, there are multiple sources you could have used. The Nurburgring wiki page has them, multiple track data record keeping websites have them. Even the official BMW ///M YouTube channel has all of those laps in all their glory.
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If I recall correctly, weren't the Ring runs for the M4 CSL on stickier tires and the M3 CS?
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Well then, you can always go back and edit your comment to reflect the true numbers. After all, there are multiple sources you could have used. The Nurburgring wiki page has them, multiple track data record keeping websites have them. Even the official BMW ///M YouTube channel has all of those laps in all their glory.
Now I found it on their website.
So M4CS is almost 7 seconds faster than M3CS
https://www.bmw-m.com/en/all-models/...bmw-m4-cs.html
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So 0-400m is…?
If 0-1000m is 20,2 seconds
Then 0-400 is around 8 seconds?!?
That can’t be right
No.. why would you just take a fraction like that? That’s not how it works. A car traveling at a faster speed covers more ground in the same amount of time.
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Conclusions:
1. G8x M3CS is 10 seconds slower than G8x M4CSL
2. G8x CS is 0.7 seconds faster than 6 years old F8x M4 GTS
3. G8x CS is 1.5 seconds faster than G8x M4 Competition xDrive!
4. G8x CS is 3.5 seconds faster than G8x M4 Competition
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife

My guess is 2025 M3 Competition xDrive with 20 hp pump in power and CF seats / brakes should be in pair with M3CS
The CS is virtually the same car as the Cx, save for a few [mostly software] tweaks. So the close results between those two are not surprising.

What is surprising is that the CSL is so much master than the other models. I didn't expect that. I also would have thought that the difference between AWD and RWD versions of the Comp would be greater.
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Was the m3cs on cup 2r tires? Hard for me to believe it was 6 seconds slower than the m4 cs on the same tire unless conditions were shitty.
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I mean if 0-60 is that important thing in car performance world you can get a Tesla Plaid and smoke most of the supercars including Ferrari, Mclaren, Lambo , etc and still save 30-40k money over M3CS.
In the US, a normally optioned Model S Plaid with CCBs, which enables the 203 mph software limited speed, is $117K+ today.

The M3/4 CS is an awesome perf value in its class.
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