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08-20-2023, 07:25 AM | #3 |
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BMW created an everyday supercar in the CSL; they should have gone the extra mile on something like this to create an M1 instead of building the XM.
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1000000% agree with that, look at what ford did with that Mustang GTD. I have been saying the same thing for years, they are lacking in that department and IMO theres a market there for it. The 3.0 CSL isnt it and the XM isnt even a true M car IMO.
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08-20-2023, 08:05 AM | #7 |
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Uh, the Mustang GTD is built by Multimatic, has a transaxle layout, is mostly carbon fiber and will cost over $300k. Hardly an "everyday super car"
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Im more concerned with performance personally and can deal with a lot of inconveniences for more speed and better handling. Sub 7 minute Nurburgring time will be very impressive IMO. Not everyday supercar you're right there maybe more like supercar killer if it can deliver as promised.
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08-20-2023, 08:21 AM | #9 |
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My point is, It's $300k plus. Its already a super car.
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08-20-2023, 08:46 AM | #10 |
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Yea the CSL will do it. Yea it’s the autobahn. Yea Joe is good driver. But 187 on a public road? Seems dangerous. A lot can happen.
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I would also say, having been able to drive it a handful of times, that I'd rather do 187 on the autobahn than 80 in the US any time. At least there the roads are maintained and people understand the rules of the road and lane discipline. |
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I grew up in Germany, lived in the US for over 8 years and returned in 2018. I drove many fast cars on the Autobahn, unlike US interstates / highways, it’s built for higher speeds and there’s a survival rule: stay on the right lane, unless you got a fast car!
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He does know it. In fact he specifically states in the video that it would settle down a bit with its "geo done" as he says.
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It’s a car that needs taming! I like it, A LOT. Fast, fun, not for the feint hearted. But it’s predictable in its behaviour, what it doesn’t tolerate is half measures. Either go for it, or don’t. Cup 2 R tyres are ‘fun’ in the wet! 😂
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Went to college in Germany and lived there long time. It's much safer to drive at high speeds in Germany than slowly in most other countries. People know how to use lanes and what speed is. They also know that no matter how fast of a car they have, there will be someone faster! Besides, they build and maintain autobahn stretches extremely well. Most of our interstates and highways are in horrible condition in comparison. Really missed driving on A3 at top speed at night!
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