M2, M3 CS, M4 CSL and M4 CS Prototype -- Fast Laps at the Nurburgring

Emtoo · 08-17-2023, 03:16 AM

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Needsdecaf · 08-17-2023, 07:25 AM

M Prototype G82??

So M4 CS coming? Or something else? I've been sleeping since the G80 is my focus.

Hit_Apex · 08-17-2023, 08:49 AM

I’m guessing hybrid powertrain in the proto.

RTC3000 · 08-17-2023, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

M Prototype G82??

So M4 CS coming? Or something else? I've been sleeping since the G80 is my focus.

Could be M4 LCI as well...but yes, a M4 CS is indeed coming as far as I heard.

Needsdecaf · 08-17-2023, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

I’m guessing hybrid powertrain in the proto.

Really? I'd be surprised since we've heard no mention of that yet. Also, I'm pretty sure that German law requires hybrids to carry the "Hybrid Test Vehicle" stickers on it.

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Originally Posted by RTC3000

Could be M4 LCI as well...but yes, a M4 CS is indeed coming as far as I heard.

I wouldn't guess LCI would be classified as "prototype" plus it has the current style headlights.

Under the camo, the front end looks just like the CSL.

RTC3000 · 08-17-2023, 09:54 AM

Every NEW model (incl. LCI) would be classified as a prototype. ;-)
Personally, I think this is the M4 CS.

Needsdecaf · 08-17-2023, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RTC3000

Every NEW model (incl. LCI) would be classified as a prototype. ;-)
Personally, I think this is the M4 CS.

I mean, you're not wrong with the satement regarding prototype status. But an LCI....why test that separately? And why would it have CSL nose on it?

I agree with you, I think this is an M4 CS.

Hit_Apex · 08-17-2023, 03:28 PM

Initially I assumed the lap time graphic was in descending order such that the M Prototype was the fastest. I don't think that is the case and agree it is likely the M4 CS which I expect to be close to the M3 CS, maybe a second or two faster. The CSL looks to be a touch over 2 seconds faster than their press release time (7:18.14 vs. 7:20.21 full). Puts the BTG time at about 7:13.5 - fun stuff.

Needsdecaf · 08-17-2023, 03:46 PM

Kind of odd that they were nearly EXACTLY 10 seconds apart too.

BmwFanBoy94 · 08-17-2023, 04:46 PM

M4 CS with no carbon bonnet?

Ibiza · 08-22-2023, 12:14 PM

“Prototype” is the upcoming M4 CS without the LCI front headlights.

Autobahn SoCal · 08-22-2023, 12:16 PM

The G87 stock only 10 seconds behind the M3 CS is a really strong number, impressive.

Autobahn SoCal · 08-22-2023, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ibiza

“Prototype” is the upcoming M4 CS without the LCI front headlights.

An M4 CS wouldn’t have beat the M4 CSL though and would be around the same time as the M3 CS, I’m sure it’s some form of a mild hybrid system or full electric cranking out crazy HP on the straights and probably around 7 minutes flat.

kgelfen360 · 08-22-2023, 12:36 PM

I wonder when this was filmed becuase it looks cold?

Needsdecaf · 08-22-2023, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kgelfen360

I wonder when this was filmed becuase it looks cold?

The trees are all completely bare. I'm not sure when the 'Ring opens in the spring for industry rentals, but I'm guessing it was at the very start of the season for this year. Someone with more knowledge can probably hone in on that guess.

Hit_Apex · 08-22-2023, 02:03 PM

Emtoo how did you get this video - why is it unlisted???

yousefnjr · 08-22-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Autobahn SoCal

An M4 CS wouldn’t have beat the M4 CSL though and would be around the same time as the M3 CS, I’m sure it’s some form of a mild hybrid system or full electric cranking out crazy HP on the straights and probably around 7 minutes flat.

It’s got the rear section of the exhaust at least, doubt they’d leave that on for camo purposes. I’d wager not a full-on BEV. Maybe that insider guy knows.

Hit_Apex · 08-22-2023, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autobahn SoCal

An M4 CS wouldn’t have beat the M4 CSL though and would be around the same time as the M3 CS, I’m sure it’s some form of a mild hybrid system or full electric cranking out crazy HP on the straights and probably around 7 minutes flat.

That was my initial reaction too but now not convinced the order is descending by lap time.

Bimmerfun82 · 08-22-2023, 06:16 PM

They filmed this after autumn or early spring and posted in summer? Wouldn’t lap times be better in warmer temps

baron95 · 08-22-2023, 10:50 PM

Cold air = mooar power

I think that M2 with a piggy back may match the CS

jmxtrem · 08-23-2023, 06:28 AM

Greeeeeeeat

GOLFFRR · 08-23-2023, 07:20 AM

curious about that proto

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