[dj_intrinsic]

I've tried searching on the subject but I can't seem to find any reliable threads...

SO for all my 6MT folks that have installed any SSKs for your G8X, what are your thoughts and why did you go with the kit you have on today comparted to another mfg? Did you install it yourself or did you have a shop do it for you?

From What I know there is one from Rogue, Future Classic and Auto Solutions.

[wavyyyy]

Rogue/Future Classic is the same one I think and Auto Solutions isn't out yet. Some people love the Rogue one, some say they didn't notice a difference.

I've sat in AhsanU's car before I had mine and before I knew how to drive manual even but I will say the shifting definitely felt shorter, better, and took more force if that's your thing. I'm personally waiting for AutoSolutions which should be out within a few months.

[LuvMyE92]

I'm not a fan of any SSK because as you reduce the travel, you also reduce the leverage and therefor increase the effort. And, I suspect although cannot prove, because you are shifting faster, you're going to wear the synchronizers a lot faster.

All that aside, the first thing you should do is remove/bypass the CDV if you really want to improve the driving experience with the manual transmission.

[BMWnation]

Rouge shifter is literally garbage. The rubbber they use for shifter isolation comes loose and woobly. Some folks may notice it, some will not. The OEM one is far superior
Trust me on this I have tons of experience with this garbage

[AhsanU]

I've had the Rogue Engineering SSK installed for just about 1.5 years now and will be moving on to the CAE Racing shifter next week Tuesday. I have no real complaints with the RE SSK as it has provided a more notchy experience, increased the force required to get the shifter into each gear, and overall - just a positive experience. I know a few others that haven't had such a great with the RE SSK, but the 6MT experience is relative to one's own past experience. I don't come from a wealth of experience having only experienced a handful of cars with a 6MT (ND Miata, AP1 S2K, 997/991.2 GT3, F80 M3, and now a G80 M3 - owned none of those cars except for the G80 and those other cars were friends' cars that I just drove over the past decade and enjoyed myself). I can only provide insight from a relative beginner's eyes.

mark_g80_mt recently got the CAE Racing shifter and shared with our 6MT group chat how much it transformed the experience for him vs. his old Rogue SSK, so I took a leap of faith and ordered the CAE shifter myself. I can report my findings next week if anything.

Originally Posted by BMWnation

Rouge shifter is literally garbage. The rubbber they use for shifter isolation comes loose and woobly. Some folks may notice it, some will not. The OEM one is far superior
Trust me on this I have tons of experience with this garbage

Do you mean the shifter itself becomes wobbly after you're in the gate? I've noticed it and honestly, it doesn't bother me really but I do understand how it might bother others.

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

I'm not a fan of any SSK because as you reduce the travel, you also reduce the leverage and therefor increase the effort. And, I suspect although cannot prove, because you are shifting faster, you're going to wear the synchronizers a lot faster.

All that aside, the first thing you should do is remove/bypass the CDV if you really want to improve the driving experience with the manual transmission.

The reduction in leverage can be/is compensated by a longer shifter, hence why the CAE shifter is particularly long and why I opted for a longer shifter on the Rogue SSK after experiencing some grinding/inaccurate throws with a shorter shifter.

That being said, I agree with the removal of the CDV - it's the first thing needs to go so you can shift faster and enjoy the 6MT experience a bit more.

[mark_g80_mt]

Yeah SSK failed on me after a year, there is a c clamp that came loose and my shifter went up and down as I shifted.

I installed the CAE and it’s been a blast, what a crazy differnce, if you were considering any kind of shifter upgrade, hands down go with CAE, it’s a little more expensive but it’s like 300% better

[Info@mad-us.com]

Originally Posted by mark_g80_mt

Yeah SSK failed on me after a year, there is a c clamp that came loose and my shifter went up and down as I shifted.

I installed the CAE and it’s been a blast, what a crazy differnce, if you were considering any kind of shifter upgrade, hands down go with CAE, it’s a little more expensive but it’s like 300% better

Does it have the ability to work with the stock boot and knob?

[mark_g80_mt]

No, you have to cut the boot at the knob, it’s 2 inches longer. Throws are less than an inch and super crispy which makes changing gears super fast

[hotsauce_bukkake]

How does one get in on this 6MT group chat? I've been in contact with mark_g80_mt and would love to share some experiences/tips with others!

[AhsanU]

Originally Posted by hotsauce_bukkake

How does one get in on this 6MT group chat? I've been in contact with mark_g80_mt and would love to share some experiences/tips with others!

It’s an Instagram group chat so DM me there: @dakar.g80 and I’ll get the admin to give you access.

[Bleaus64]

i’m interested as well in getting into that group chat I’ll shoot you a DM. thanks

[MBoriPerf]

Sorry to revive this from the death but Im trying to decide what route to go with. So the only 2 options are Rogue Eng or CAE???
I dont like how the extra lenght on the CAE looks, might be just picture perception maybe, but is the RE failure rate that high?

[akashyap]

I thought the Autosolutions kit was shipping now?

[An_Carv]

Originally Posted by MBoriPerf

Sorry to revive this from the death but Im trying to decide what route to go with. So the only 2 options are Rogue Eng or CAE???
I dont like how the extra lenght on the CAE looks, might be just picture perception maybe, but is the RE failure rate that high?

I just ordered the RTD kit yesterday. That’s another option and it’s much shorter than the CAE.

They also have a Carbon Fiber version for it but you have to place that request on the order details and email their support team to make sure it goes through.

[MBoriPerf]

Any specific difference worth mentioning between Autosolutions & RTD?

This is my first BMW M car and want to do this right

[John @ BSPK]

Originally Posted by akashyap

I thought the Autosolutions kit was shipping now?

I've had the autosolutions kit in my part closet waiting to be installed for about 2 months so it definitely exists / is shipping. I've been doing a big part accumulation to have everything installed at once. I will be doing the install in the next month or so (it's winter here so I haven't been in a huge rush but getting closer).

[beamerfever]

Originally Posted by MBoriPerf

Any specific difference worth mentioning between Autosolutions & RTD?

This is my first BMW M car and want to do this right

Not sure about auto solutions but I’ve used the rtd shifter on my friends e46 and I personally love it. I will say that because the shifter is longer it requires a bit more force to get into gear. Will def mitigate the sponginess feeling that lots of g8x/f87 owners complain about. I bought the cae because at that time RTD hadn’t produced anything for the g8x but I never even ended up installing it. In past M cars RTD was the budget friendly yet very comparable to the CAE.

Part of the reason I never got the CAE installed is because it’s a pain in the ass to install and requires cutting. And I know that with the RTD from their description it doesn’t require any cutting. Also the RTD offers a shorter version, that might be a selling point for daily/non track focused drivers. I feel like the CAE is definitely much longer afterall it is a racing shifter.

I know you asked about auto solutions vs RTD. I’m just giving you some insight.

Lastly i know they have a code for 25% off rn on their website. $600 before shipping and taxes with the code. Code is: g8x


TLDR: have used the RTD daily on an e46 m3 for a 3-4 weeks enjoyed it personally. Requires some force to get into gear. They have 2 versions long/short. Doesn’t require cutting.

[MBoriPerf]

Originally Posted by beamerfever

Not sure about auto solutions but I’ve used the rtd shifter on my friends e46 and I personally love it. I will say that because the shifter is longer it requires a bit more force to get into gear. Will def mitigate the sponginess feeling that lots of g8x/f87 owners complain about. I bought the cae because at that time RTD hadn’t produced anything for the g8x but I never even ended up installing it. In past M cars RTD was the budget friendly yet very comparable to the CAE.

Part of the reason I never got the CAE installed is because it’s a pain in the ass to install and requires cutting. And I know that with the RTD from their description it doesn’t require any cutting. Also the RTD offers a shorter version, that might be a selling point for daily/non track focused drivers. I feel like the CAE is definitely much longer afterall it is a racing shifter.

I know you asked about auto solutions vs RTD. I’m just giving you some insight.

Lastly i know they have a code for 25% off rn on their website. $600 before shipping and taxes with the code. Code is: g8x


TLDR: have used the RTD daily on an e46 m3 for a 3-4 weeks enjoyed it personally. Requires some force to get into gear. They have 2 versions long/short. Doesn’t require cutting.

Appreciate your response bud!
Reason I didnt mentioned CAE is because of the cost, I just don't want to spend that much on it. I imagine the shorter version requires more force to get it in gear than the longer version?

[beamerfever]

Originally Posted by MBoriPerf

Appreciate your response bud!
Reason I didnt mentioned CAE is because of the cost, I just don't want to spend that much on it. I imagine the shorter version requires more force to get it in gear than the longer version?

I actually believe it’s the other way around. But im not a 100% sure. wavyyyy mentioned in person that he is considering selling his CAE shifter btw

[MBoriPerf]

Originally Posted by beamerfever

I actually believe it’s the other way around. But im not a 100% sure. wavyyyy mentioned in person that he is considering selling his CAE shifter btw

Well, I could certainly be wrong but I thought that because you are reducing the shift travel with the short shifter now you would need a longer lever to maintain the same force requirement for shift engagement. With a longer shifter would be easier (less force required) to shift.

[beamerfever]

Originally Posted by MBoriPerf

Well, I could certainly be wrong but I thought that because you are reducing the shift travel with the short shifter now you would need a longer lever to maintain the same force requirement for shift engagement. With a longer shifter would be easier (less force required) to shift.

You might be right! Similar to like how torque works. Longer torque arm less work required.

When I think of long shifters it reminds of this RK tunes video

https://youtube.com/shorts/9KxAHn__K...Poy_dPqnc_7ie9

[MBoriPerf]

Originally Posted by beamerfever

You might be right! Similar to like how torque works. Longer torque arm less work required.

When I think of long shifters it reminds of this RK tunes video

https://youtube.com/shorts/9KxAHn__K...Poy_dPqnc_7ie9

🤣
Wow, that IS leverage