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      05-13-2023, 02:51 PM   #1
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911 GT3 vs M4 CSL: Track Battle by Auto Trader

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Currently I own and track my dd g80 6MT. Have a gt3 on order. Very please that this video shows Iím making a good choice.
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Currently I own and track my dd g80 6MT. Have a gt3 on order. Very please that this video shows Iím making a good choice.
you are gonna love it. ive done a track day already and got another one coming up next month. it's an absolute beast
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Surprised to see this post on here as a front page article in all honesty. It highlights the CSL as a complete misstep. You would think after 20 years BMW would have done a better job. Then again, the XM is the first dedicated M car since the M1Ö and look how that turned out.
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Amazing video but how many people and how often take a +150k car to track?
No matter which car wins the battle I believe both cars are amazing and its ablessing to own Ö
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Surprised to see this post on here as a front page article in all honesty. It highlights the CSL as a complete misstep. You would think after 20 years BMW would have done a better job. Then again, the XM is the first dedicated M car since the M1Ö and look how that turned out.
When has any top notch BMW product been remotely competitive with a top notch Porsche product? Same was the case for the GTS vs. GT3. Itís a different class of car, different price level, for a different customer.
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Nice
Amazing video but how many people and how often take a +150k car to track?
people with spare +$150k that buy +$150k car?

agree- not people who are taking a massive loan to get a $150k range rover those won't be taking the rovers to the mud but these guys have spare cash, they can afford to track and even race these cars.

i don't think the CSL is a very good track car so no they won't be tracking these, probably investing to on sell in the future ....

but what do i know, i don't have spare +$150k lying around. i just see know they do track expensive cars that are made for track.
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Nice
Amazing video but how many people and how often take a +150k car to track?
No matter which car wins the battle I believe both cars are amazing and its ablessing to own Ö
Could not have said this any better.
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Oh boy! More comments about how a BMW ///M product should match the GT3 (..or other dedicated Porsche GT product). This is such a two decade old tired argument.
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M4 CSL seems like a bit of a hooligan! Iím a fan
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Surprised to see this post on here as a front page article in all honesty. It highlights the CSL as a complete misstep. You would think after 20 years BMW would have done a better job. Then again, the XM is the first dedicated M car since the M1Ö and look how that turned out.
Marketing is winning the battle I think, unfortunately. This car is a nice M4 but IMO not deserving of the CSL badge.

The only reason to buy a CSL over a GT3 is because you can actually find one.
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Both great cars but if I were on the market, GT3 all day everyday.
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Marketing is winning the battle I think, unfortunately. This car is a nice M4 but IMO not deserving of the CSL badge.

The only reason to buy a CSL over a GT3 is because you can actually find one.

So what would make it deserving???


GT3's can be found much easier than a CSL. The problem is cost and usability; both of which make the proposition of a GT3 prohibitive to most people. While I agree that the CSL isn't going to be daily driven by the large majority of people who own the car, neither is the GT3. Most are garage queen brag-mobiles or Cars & Coffee trophies.
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The comments in this thread are pure dumpster fire

Meanwhile rhe CSL is as it was designed

Also meanwhile the Porsche Gt3 is as it was designed

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Marketing is winning the battle I think, unfortunately. This car is a nice M4 but IMO not deserving of the CSL badge.

The only reason to buy a CSL over a GT3 is because you can actually find one.
Imagine if BMW looked as nice as GT3. It would be considered a much more comparable alternative. But it looks aggressive and expensive, and thats about it. Its not enough to play vs GT3.
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M4 CSL seems like a bit of a hooligan! Iím a fan
hooligan = F82 M4 C in my books
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What a surprise. Itís raining.

(Iíd still take the CSL. Any day.)
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I donít think this was a bad review for the CSL. I do think people should stop trying to do road tests with this car in the wet, with the wrong seats. But itís not winning a track battle with a GT3.

That said, on sticky rubber in the dry on a racetrack, it will feel more nuanced than sledgehammer is my guess.
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Comparisons videos are fun Porsche GT3 is different driving experience vs a BMW M4 CSL both are unique.

I would like to own a GT3 MT and Shelby GT 350 Ö.someday one day 😎
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Does it always rain in the uk? Second video about these cars and its raining in both of them
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Surprised to see this post on here as a front page article in all honesty. It highlights the CSL as a complete misstep. You would think after 20 years BMW would have done a better job. Then again, the XM is the first dedicated M car since the M1Ö and look how that turned out.
How does it highlight the CSL as a misstep? Itís an incredible car and over $100,000 less than a GT3?
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Nice
Amazing video but how many people and how often take a +150k car to track?
No matter which car wins the battle I believe both cars are amazing and its ablessing to own …
At almost every track day I take my M3 to, there are nowadays more 991/992 GT cars than M3s... so yeah, many people take expensive cars out on circuits.
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