[Jason]

Demo starts approximately 9:22 into video.

[Bimmerfun82]

idrive demo starts at minute 10

the one maddening thing i'll share about the hvac control - if you want to change air direction you have to toggle off automatic mode (that tiny little button, so small). also, there are 5 setting for heated seat and 2 of them do nothing

[PLF69]

Its a bit ironic that they could up the resolution and make it even better if the HVAC buttons would still be physical on the part of the dash under the screen.

[heelsmj]

The number one most annoying thing about iDrive eight is you can no longer toggle dynamic traction on and off with the button. When you press the button it brings up a menu on the iDrive screen and then you have to press to turn traction off and then press again to confirm so now it takes three presses something that took one before.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by heelsmj

The number one most annoying thing about iDrive eight is you can no longer toggle dynamic traction on and off with the button. When you press the button it brings up a menu on the iDrive screen and then you have to press to turn traction off and then press again to confirm so now it takes three presses something that took one before.

You can set it in M1 or M2 presets, but you do have to press the preset button twice to acknowledge the legal waiver.

[chris3g]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

You can set it in M1 or M2 presets, but you do have to press the preset button twice to acknowledge the legal waiver.

yeah but that is also worse in ID8, on ID7 you can just double click the button but now it makes you wait for a short delay until the confirmation press is accepted.

Still overall though ID8 is really nice.

[G30 B58]

BMW please drop the Competition naming from cars that are not competing.

/rant

Edit: Deep breath, maybe we're auto-crossing.

[cfm56d7b]

Excessive reliance on touch controls will be quietly retracted at some point. It’s only a matter of time. Until then, cleaning the ever expanding touch screens is all we can do.

[Forzanerazzurri]

That looks like ID7 with a skin that is way slower/laggier and needs more steps do execute a task.

[P1]

Do you want to drive a car, or fiddle with a computer lab all day?

[astroricardo]

Originally Posted by G30 B58

BMW please drop the Competition naming from cars that are not competing.

/rant

Edit: Deep breath, maybe we're auto-crossing.

Maybe *you* aren't competing!

[G30M]

Originally Posted by heelsmj

The number one most annoying thing about iDrive eight is you can no longer toggle dynamic traction on and off with the button. When you press the button it brings up a menu on the iDrive screen and then you have to press to turn traction off and then press again to confirm so now it takes three presses something that took one before.

for me iD8 is a waste of time as I struggle to touch anything on any screen in any car while it is moving. i'm not a 16 year old, i did my entire college degree using library books as there was no google.

when my cars with iD7 die i will move to another brand that has buttons

though i might not have a choice then and might need to eat my words (i doubt it), it could be so extreme that cars will probably drive you rather than you drive them ... we'll see!

[Alpine Wait]

Originally Posted by cfm56d7b

Excessive reliance on touch controls will be quietly retracted at some point. It’s only a matter of time. Until then, cleaning the ever expanding touch screens is all we can do.

Teslas seem to have been doing OK for many, many years.

There's still plenty of room for touch screen improvement. But I can't see us 'going back' to physical buttons.

[Tomduck]

[QUOTE=g21;30047220]for me iD8 is a waste of time as I struggle to touch anything on any screen in any car while it is moving. i'm not a 16 year old, i did my entire college degree using library books as there was no google.

when my cars with iD7 die i will move to another brand that has buttons

though i might not have a choice then and might need to eat my words (i doubt it), it could be so extreme that cars will probably drive you rather than you drive them ... we'll see!

All cars will be touch only soon, so you might be committing to buy a used car next to escape it…

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by g21

for me iD8 is a waste of time as I struggle to touch anything on any screen in any car while it is moving. i'm not a 16 year old, i did my entire college degree using library books as there was no google.

when my cars with iD7 die i will move to another brand that has buttons

though i might not have a choice then and might need to eat my words (i doubt it), it could be so extreme that cars will probably drive you rather than you drive them ... we'll see!

Agree 100%. There are some voice commands but I also am old and don’t want to learn them. (The best one is “bmw I’m cold/hot.) I had the iD8 for 5 months & 9k miles and sold the car partly because of it. It’s like a windows Pc with all the icons and you end up using 1/10th of all the capabilities- just need the heat seater / ventilator, recirc, apple CarPlay and a few presets. But it’s just a pain and takes your eyes off the road too much. I miss the good ol’ days where recirc was on the steering wheel. I’d find myself behind a truck or bus and searching manically for recirc.

Btw tesla is much easier and intuitive, but also a PiTA. One i am willing to live with - after all it’s not a luxury car.

[TheMaxXHD]

Another idrive8 thread. Yay.

In all seriousness, its software. Its design. It is like apple vs android. People will prefer one over the other. Does that mean either one is worse than the other??? Depends on what you want from an OS. Apple and android fanboys will defend their OS to the death and claim the other is bad. But most just get on with it and use whatever they started with and get used to it.

iDrive 8, and for that matter literally every car entertainment system that came before it, currently exists, and after it’s deprecation, will be like that. There will be lovers and haters.

To quote James from Throttle House who has this quote he says often that I think is super important for looking at things big picture wise. The question isn’t whether it’s good or bad, you can criticize anything that you think is bad, but the question is “do you get on with it?”, can you learn to live with it and be fine. That is super important, and super subjective person to person.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Tomduck

All cars will be touch only soon, so you might be committing to buy a used car next to escape it…

it's ok i have this in mind

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by TheMaxXHD

Another idrive8 thread. Yay.

In all seriousness, its software. Its design. It is like apple vs android. People will prefer one over the other. Does that mean either one is worse than the other??? Depends on what you want from an OS. Apple and android fanboys will defend their OS to the death and claim the other is bad. But most just get on with it and use whatever they started with and get used to it.

iDrive 8, and for that matter literally every car entertainment system that came before it, currently exists, and after it’s deprecation, will be like that. There will be lovers and haters.

To quote James from Throttle House who has this quote he says often that I think is super important for looking at things big picture wise. The question isn’t whether it’s good or bad, you can criticize anything that you think is bad, but the question is “do you get on with it?”, can you learn to live with it and be fine. That is super important, and super subjective person to person.

No. It’s like an iD7 v iD8. Or if you have to make an analogy iPad v Blackberry (still a terrible analogy).

One has HVAC buttons, and one doesn’t. One has a thermometer Speedo and tach, and one has fairly normal ones albeit tach in reverse. Completely different experiences for the most part.

And I don’t listen to anything TH says anymore. They’re arrogant and biased, although James less so. That being said, he’s right about that, and I got on with iD8 but it’s subpar and inferior to iD7 in pragmatic ways.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Does it play Fortnite?

[TheMaxXHD]

For all the pitchforks relating to idrive 8, I have definitely gotten on with it. I find it to be a nice improvement over idrive 7 in multiple areas.

I think if I had to change something, I’d change the circulation menu in the climate control, it should be a button in the menu, not a separate menu. Given the function of changing circulation type can be circumstantial based on where you are driving (farms/skunk) or who is in front of you (truck), having to fumble to that menu for what could be only a minute of needing to change it isn’t that great.

But overall. I like it. Take that for what you will. I personally view it as more functional and modern than my experience in idrive 7.

[mirob]

I don't understand why this is front page news or news at all. G87 M2 fatigue?

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by mirob

I don't understand why this is front page news or news at all. G87 M2 fatigue?

Because OP is an administrator