C&D Review: M3 Competition xDrive Delivers Supercar Performance. Outrageous.

///Monty · 03-30-2023, 01:25 PM

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BMW M3 Competition xDrive Delivers Supercar Performance

Outrageous. Ballistic. Quick. BMW's all-wheel-drive M3 Competition lives in another world.

Review article:

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...y-the-numbers/

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dmand · 03-30-2023, 02:10 PM

Love it! However, it seems a little late in the game for a review, no?

ScullyD · 03-30-2023, 02:13 PM

Just think about how fast the M3 CS is going to be.

DocWeatherington · 03-30-2023, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmand

Love it! However, it seems a little late in the game for a review, no?

Nothing wrong with a new test...this is a 50th

Bimmerfun82 · 03-30-2023, 03:08 PM

I can attest this is true based on my experience. Car is totally bananas. If you enjoy the process of going 0-80 (instead of blinking and missing it), or if you lack a bit of self control, def get something else.

weingarm · 03-30-2023, 03:23 PM

It should be noted that Car & Driver always omits 1 foot rollout times from their 0-60 tests.

They quote it at 2.8 (without rollout) and an actual 0-60 time of 3.0 (with rollout)

Still quick, yes.

spuntyb · 03-30-2023, 03:26 PM

Is it 2021???

curtdragon · 03-30-2023, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I can attest this is true based on my experience. Car is totally bananas. If you enjoy the process of going 0-80 (instead of blinking and missing it), or if you lack a bit of self control, def get something else.

Who doesn't lack a bit of self control?
I feel like anyone buying a BMW lacks some

weingarm · 03-30-2023, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I can attest this is true based on my experience. Car is totally bananas. If you enjoy the process of going 0-80 (instead of blinking and missing it), or if you lack a bit of self control, def get something else.

Again, this is why you can only have so much fun in these M3/M4 Xdrive Competition models on public roads. The 0-60 party trick gets old, I know because I previously owned an F90 M5.

That’s why I got the M3 6MT! More smiles/mile 😜

Bimmerfun82 · 03-30-2023, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curtdragon

Who doesn't lack a bit of self control?
I feel like anyone buying a BMW lacks some

Quote:

Originally Posted by weingarm

Again, this is why you can only have so much fun in these M3/M4 Xdrive Competition models on public roads. The 0-60 party trick gets old, I know because I previously owned an F90 M5.

That’s why I got the M3 6MT! More smiles/mile ��

Exactly, although "a bit" is relative... I ordered a 6MT, but settled for the cx to save a year wait

wesleyan92 · 03-30-2023, 04:17 PM

Cadillac must not have paid their monthly "Blackwing #1" dues to C&D.

thebigcheese · 03-30-2023, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Just think about how fast the M3 CS is going to be.

Theres a good chance i get in trouble with the CS lol

Humdizzle · 03-30-2023, 04:53 PM

definitely puts up good numbers. GTR fast in the 1/4 mile and 1g in the skidpad. surprising that car and driver couldn't get a better time out of it at lightning lap as it placed #66 and behind the new RS3.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/

Tyga11 · 03-30-2023, 04:59 PM

Best car on the planet

Fugly M3 · 03-30-2023, 05:02 PM

The drag coefficients of the M3/4 seem to be nearly identical from what I can find (.34), so the slight outpacing at higher speeds and better braking of the M4 suggests the difference is the PS4S the M4 had vs. the Pirellis the M3 had. On that note, for all the beating they take on the boards, the Pirellis seem to perform rather well. That's my biggest takeaway from this review.

CanAutM3 · 03-30-2023, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humdizzle

definitely puts up good numbers. GTR fast in the 1/4 mile and 1g in the skidpad. surprising that car and driver couldn't get a better time out of it at lightning lap as it placed #66 and behind the new RS3.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/

The RS3 was on very sticky Trofeo-R R-Comp tires (equivalent to PSC2R) for that lightning lap.

CanAutM3 · 03-30-2023, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by weingarm

It should be noted that Car & Driver always omits 1 foot rollout times from their 0-60 tests.

They quote it at 2.8 (without rollout) and an actual 0-60 time of 3.0 (with rollout)

Still quick, yes.

All US publications do...

MKParris · 03-30-2023, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuntyb

Is it 2021???

theyve been busy jerking off to EVs.

TVonthe80 · 03-30-2023, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

The RS3 was very sticky Trofoe-R R-Comp tires (equivalent to PSC2R) for that lightning lap.

This. They quoted those tires as being worth something like 2.5 seconds on one of the cars. It’s a big difference vs the 4s. I still think the 6mt x drive would have been the greatest offering even if power limited

CanAutM3 · 03-30-2023, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVonthe80

This. They quoted those tires as being worth something like 2.5 seconds on one of the cars. It’s a big difference vs the 4s. I still think the 6mt x drive would have been the greatest offering even if power limited

More like 10 sec quicker according to the article, which is in line with a ~3 sec/min lap that is expected between a performance street tire and an aggressive R-comp tire such as the Trofeo-R.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2023/

Humdizzle · 03-30-2023, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

More like 10 sec quicker according to the article, which is in line with a ~3 sec/min lap that is expected between a performance street tire and an aggressive R-comp tire such as the Trofeo-R.

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...ning-lap-2023/

really makes you wonder how much of the CSL's 6 second advantage over the comp xdrive are due to the cup2r tires. The comp was on ps4s for that time as well.

i won't surprised if the x-drive CS beats the CSL's lap times.

Jackie Chiles · 03-30-2023, 07:54 PM

The C&D test car had Pirellis. Would it have been faster on track with Michelins? If so, how much faster?

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