My M4 CSL and M3 Touring together

DAL33S · 02-23-2023, 04:02 PM

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Weather was crap… cars are dirty but I got invited along to a photoshoot by my local dealer (DL Hungerford)

The aim was to have all 3 coloured CSL’s together but we couldn’t find a black one.

As I’m building my own M3 Touring CSL to match my M4 CSL we used that instead….

Next to fit my genuine CSL wheels.

Hit_Apex · 02-23-2023, 04:12 PM

Very cool! To what extent are you going with the Touring build? Will you remove 100kg and upgrade all of the OEM part differences (hood, suspensions, subframe/motor/trans mounts, swaybars, strut brace, exhaust, interior, etc?) Will you retain pass-through to the boot or add the CSL rear wall? Sure will be interesting to follow!

DAL33S · 02-23-2023, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hit_Apex

Very cool! To what extent are you going with the Touring build? Will you remove 100kg and upgrade all of the OEM part differences (hood, suspensions, subframe/motor/trans mounts, swaybars, strut brace, exhaust, interior, etc?) Will you retain pass-through to the boot or add the CSL rear wall? Sure will be interesting to follow!

Visually will be the plan, getting 100kg out this will be hard work and Tourings are Xdrive too.

The M3 touring has its own dampers / springs so fitting CSL items won’t work.

I’ve already done the following:

- Grill, didn’t want CSL as it’s has ACC
- CSL lip
- lowered / spacers
- OPF back Remus exhaust
- Yellow DRL’s
- CSL wheels (not in these pictures)

Parts due for delivery:

- CSL bonnet
- CSL Steering wheel
- CSL engine brace

KKSigs · 02-24-2023, 04:38 AM

Thank you for sharing such beautiful pics. So far all the reviews I’ve read for the touring have been stellar. What’s your thoughts.

ChrisM4 · 02-24-2023, 05:18 AM

Man that picture of the touring by itself driving down the road looks sooo good….

Simon H · 02-24-2023, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAL33S

Visually will be the plan, getting 100kg out this will be hard work and Tourings are Xdrive too.

The M3 touring has its own dampers / springs so fitting CSL items won’t work.

I’ve already done the following:

- Grill, didn’t want CSL as it’s has ACC
- CSL lip
- lowered / spacers
- OPF back Remus exhaust
- Yellow DRL’s
- CSL wheels (not in these pictures)

Parts due for delivery:

- CSL bonnet
- CSL Steering wheel
- CSL engine brace

Hi Dale,
Hows the Remus OPF back for you ?, really considering this when ive had the RIS done. Not sure i want to go OPF delete route, so this set up is favourite atm. Apart from volume increase, do you get any more wuffles and pops, bad description i know

, thanks Buddy.

DAL33S · 02-25-2023, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KKSigs

Thank you for sharing such beautiful pics. So far all the reviews I’ve read for the touring have been stellar. What’s your thoughts.

I couldn’t agree more, it’s a brilliant car! Road presence and handling are brilliant. Very different to drive to the CSL.

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Originally Posted by ChrisM3

Man that picture of the touring by itself driving down the road looks sooo good….

One my favourite photos!

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Originally Posted by Simon H

Hi Dale,
Hows the Remus OPF back for you ?, really considering this when ive had the RIS done. Not sure i want to go OPF delete route, so this set up is favourite atm. Apart from volume increase, do you get any more wuffles and pops, bad description i know

, thanks Buddy.

It’s one of most popular systems we fit for customers. I run a titanium version on my CSL and non titanium on the touring.

OPF back give you no EML or need for can bus emulator / OPF emulator. Also depending on the year of the vehicle it’s depends on what you need Emulator wise.

I would say the OPF back gives you more burbles. You will only get cracks etc if you remove OPF.

Below is a video installing OPF back on my Touring with R44 who we collaborated with on my Touring Project. Got some sound clips on there.

https://youtu.be/JyM68jL4ybI

moonluv810 · 02-25-2023, 08:05 AM

Amazing pair!

Simon H · 02-25-2023, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAL33S

I couldn’t agree more, it’s a brilliant car! Road presence and handling are brilliant. Very different to drive to the CSL.

One my favourite photos!

It’s one of most popular systems we fit for customers. I run a titanium version on my CSL and non titanium on the touring.

OPF back give you no EML or need for can bus emulator / OPF emulator. Also depending on the year of the vehicle it’s depends on what you need Emulator wise.

I would say the OPF back gives you more burbles. You will only get cracks etc if you remove OPF.

Below is a video installing OPF back on my Touring with R44 who we collaborated with on my Touring Project. Got some sound clips on there.

https://youtu.be/JyM68jL4ybI

Thanks Dale,
If i were to go OPF delete, etc, i would run the Lieb delete modules, or similar. What is the Emulator you mention ?. My car is a May 22 Build M4 X Drive, thanks again buddy

DAL33S · 02-25-2023, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simon H

Thanks Dale,
If i were to go OPF delete, etc, i would run the Lieb delete modules, or similar. What is the Emulator you mention ?. My car is a May 22 Build M4 X Drive, thanks again buddy

Lieb delete modules won’t work on there own, you will also need CAN Bus emulator too.

Go OPF back personally I think that’s the sweet spot. You can add from there!

IMG · 03-03-2023, 02:21 PM

Hot !

spuntyb · 03-03-2023, 02:38 PM

Looks great, enjoy!

nick3753 · 03-03-2023, 03:00 PM

God damn I hate these touring threads. Makes me so angry!!

Bee Pee · 03-03-2023, 03:05 PM

Nice is yr touring on std suspension- asking as front arch looks better as in less than usual m3 gap

bigfra · 03-03-2023, 03:09 PM

🫢

DavidXJ · 03-03-2023, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAL33S

Lieb delete modules won’t work on there own, you will also need CAN Bus emulator too.

Go OPF back personally I think that’s the sweet spot. You can add from there!

Very interesting and thanks for the video, Dale. Predictable question, perhaps, but what's the status on this kind of mod for UK MOTs, in practice? Presumably you can delete the OPF and still get the car past the standard emissions compliance, if you're retaining the cats? Some will of course say it's illegal to remove OPFs (but then it's also 'illegal' to make a car louder than it was OEM). I only ask as I know from my local MOT afficionado that the presence/operation of OPFs isn't necessarily part of the inspection (rather it's the meeting of overall emissions thresholds that they're checking). Thanks for any gen on this score, in terms of how your customers have navigated this.

SYT_Shadow · 03-03-2023, 04:18 PM

Congratulations on the beautiful cars! A dream garage right there!!

AndrewBarkerBMWno1 · 03-03-2023, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DAL33S

Weather was crap… cars are dirty but I got invited along to a photoshoot by my local dealer (DL Hungerford)

The aim was to have all 3 coloured CSL’s together but we couldn’t find a black one.

As I’m building my own M3 Touring CSL to match my M4 CSL we used that instead….

Next to fit my genuine CSL wheels.

What a day this was, thank you for bringing your Touring & CSL along mate 🙌

antzcrashing · 03-03-2023, 05:48 PM

CSL is the perfect car.

DAL33S · 03-03-2023, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bee Pee

Nice is yr touring on std suspension- asking as front arch looks better as in less than usual m3 gap

Vehicle is lowered front and rear with rear external plastic arches removed (when fitted they make car look lower) it’s a development HAS spring kit by MSS. Really impressed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidXJ

Very interesting and thanks for the video, Dale. Predictable question, perhaps, but what's the status on this kind of mod for UK MOTs, in practice? Presumably you can delete the OPF and still get the car past the standard emissions compliance, if you're retaining the cats? Some will of course say it's illegal to remove OPFs (but then it's also 'illegal' to make a car louder than it was OEM). I only ask as I know from my local MOT afficionado that the presence/operation of OPFs isn't necessarily part of the inspection (rather it's the meeting of overall emissions thresholds that they're checking). Thanks for any gen on this score, in terms of how your customers have navigated this.

It’s a real grey area, I would say most wouldn’t know or notice. At this point MOT test doesn’t include inspecting OPF’s but I’m sure it will in future. Also vehicle have been within 3 year period so don’t need MOT’s.

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Originally Posted by AndrewBarkerBMWno1

What a day this was, thank you for bringing your Touring & CSL along mate 🙌

Great to be involved Andrew. Love the selection of individual cars 😍

ResIpsaLoquitur · 03-03-2023, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewBarkerBMWno1

What a day this was, thank you for bringing your Touring & CSL along mate 🙌

I thought that background looked familiar!

ResIpsaLoquitur · 03-03-2023, 10:08 PM

Beautiful set of cars, gentlemen, against a beautiful back drop!

RHD M cars make me weak in the knees.

And finally, loving the sequential number plates DAL33S!

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