BMW M4 CSL v Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA: Drag Race [Carwow]

Mani59 · 11-19-2022, 04:10 AM

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Carwow put the M4 CSL up against the Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA.

MadBimmeRad · 11-19-2022, 05:54 AM

I tell you what, just because you can drive a performance car, it doesn't necessarily make you a racing driver

It's seems obvious from several reviews, if you launch the CSL properly, then you know what a beast you're in

Thank you for sharing

FISH22 · 11-19-2022, 08:27 AM

Awesome, thanks for sharing! Two of my favorite cars.

Higgs Boson · 11-19-2022, 08:39 AM

Matt Watson hands down the worst driver on youtube. I have never seen someone have more issues launching a variety of cars...and scratching he head why, "this car launches so weird and soft." lol.

turn off the nannies and learn throttle control.

jpdchicago · 11-19-2022, 08:47 AM

Thanks for sharing!
Both amazing cars. Cannot go wrong either way. The big difference is that BMW greatly underrates their horsepower figures.
The CSL is closer to 600 hp supposedly…
It explains everything.

MadBimmeRad · 11-19-2022, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

Matt Watson hands down the worst driver on youtube. I have never seen someone have more issues launching a variety of cars...and scratching he head why, "this car launches so weird and soft." lol.

turn off the nannies and learn throttle control.

I was trying to be nice with my comment but I find Matt to be a bit of a twat really

There, I said it 😂

forcefed · 11-19-2022, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

turn off the nannies and learn throttle control.

What? You mean actually drive the car? Unpossible!

Him launching manual cars is even funnier.

jpdchicago · 11-19-2022, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

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Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

Matt Watson hands down the worst driver on youtube. I have never seen someone have more issues launching a variety of cars...and scratching he head why, "this car launches so weird and soft." lol.

turn off the nannies and learn throttle control.

I was trying to be nice with my comment but I find Matt to be a bit of a twat really

There, I did it 😂

😂
At least they brought us the comparison we were all waiting for….

MadBimmeRad · 11-19-2022, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jpdchicago

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I was trying to be nice with my comment but I find Matt to be a bit of a twat really

There, I did it 😂

😂
At least they brought us the comparison we were all waiting for….

True, but I'd rather chew my knuckles than watch him being a w⚓

I only watch BMW related drag races from him; nothing else

bri1042 · 11-19-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by forcefed

What? You mean actually drive the car? Unpossible!

Him launching manual cars is even funnier.

Which he freely admits. One of the reasons watching him drive somewhat poorly is fun is that what he gets out of a car is much closer to what most people could manage than reviewers who are actually close to being proper race drivers, such as Chris Harris.

We don't get a true representation of what the cars are actually capable of with Mat, but perhaps in various moments of self-honesty many of us could admit that we are probably closer to Mat's skill than Chris's.

2011ninja · 11-19-2022, 09:43 AM

Yawn fest

My tesla is faster

I'm joking

6MT for the win

BGM-M3COMP · 11-19-2022, 10:42 AM

At least this is somewhat comparable.

Similar weight, similar power, both rwd.

The m4 is just faster.

crypto · 11-19-2022, 10:45 AM

The CSL must have more horse power than 550. That said and no one asked me (I know) — I just can't stand the looks of the AR cars. It took a while for the new G80 face/design to grow on me and I'm mostly there. These AR cars … I feel like they look uglier every time I look at them.

Sedan_Clan · 11-19-2022, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by crypto

The CSL must have more horse power than 550. That said and no one asked me (I know) — I just can't stand the looks of the AR cars. It took a while for the new G80 face/design to grow on me and I'm mostly there. These AR cars … I feel like they look uglier every time I look at them.

I've never liked the Alfa's either.

Jhanksm3 · 11-19-2022, 02:41 PM

I feel the same way but slot of people think otherwise

TractionControlDelete · 11-19-2022, 03:09 PM

Only the GTA's spoiler can make the CSL's seem subtle.

CanAutM3 · 11-19-2022, 04:39 PM

Isn't that the standard British press car used in all UK reviews with the adjustable bucket seats and shod on PS4S?

If that is the case, it explains a fair bit since the GTA is fitted with PSC2 and the result on the launch and braking would have been quite different if it was shod with the proper PSC2R...

eljay · 11-19-2022, 05:25 PM

I find "launching" of most cars these days is very much a Logitech experience: push a button, press a pedal, hold on.

Sedan_Clan · 11-19-2022, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by eljay

I find "launching" of most cars these days is very much a Logitech experience: push a button, press a pedal, hold on.

Agreed! That is part of the reason I stick with manual transmissions.

M3inM3 · 11-19-2022, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I tell you what, just because you can drive a performance car, it doesn't necessarily make you a racing driver

It's seems obvious from several reviews, if you launch the CSL properly, then you know what a breast you're in

Thank you for sharing

I am not sure what sort of reviews you are watching.

MadBimmeRad · 11-19-2022, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by M3inM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

I tell you what, just because you can drive a performance car, it doesn't necessarily make you a racing driver

It's seems obvious from several reviews, if you launch the CSL properly, then you know what a breast you're in

Thank you for sharing

I am not sure what sort of reviews you are watching.

CarWow, StraightPipes, Throttle House .... They all failed miserably launching the car

BUTTTTTTT

I acknowledge, when you have the car for only a few hours, it's hard to find the Goldilocks moment that quickly

Also, welcome to, BimmerPost, our zany corner of the BMW world

ScullyD · 11-19-2022, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

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Originally Posted by M3inM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by "MadBimmeRad;29560362"

I tell you what, just because you can drive a performance car, it doesn't necessarily make you a racing driver

It's seems obvious from several reviews, if you launch the CSL properly, then you know what a breast you're in

Thank you for sharing

I am not sure what sort of reviews you are watching.

CarWow, StraightPipes, Throttle House .... They all failed miserably launching the car

BUTTTTTTT

I acknowledge, when you have the car for only a few hours, it's hard to find the Goldilocks moment that quickly

Based on my small 231 mile sampling owning this thing, this is far and away the most accurate journalist review:

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/bmw/4-...022-review?amp

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