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Although not a 1/4 mile car per se, can't wait for the M3CS to break well into the high 10's stock. It's going to be fuqing insane unlocking the ecu breaking into the 9's and also carve the corners like a boss.
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There's already a stock 50 Jahre M3 running mid 10s. Like 10.40s.
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There's already a stock 50 Jahre M3 running mid 10s. Like 10.40s.
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CSL rear suspension was very different, I'm expecting the CS to be more similar to a C just cause that's the way the other CS's are. If the CS is more like a CSL from a suspension standpoint, people here should get ready for sticker shock (ie 140k+ MSRP). |
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I think cost will also possibly factor in. But I'd love to see BMW just try the make the CS version even better than the CSL, rather than try to prop the CSL up by making the CS worse and cheaper. I think if they do that, the price will be higher than the CSL. There are a lot of delusional people on BP that think the CS is going to be like $120k and "better" than the CSL (ie carbon copy + xdrive). |
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I expect very little chance the CS will have a weight much different than a G80 comp. It will probably get the Ti exhaust but have standard sound insulation, hood, boot lid, standard rear seats. The L in CSL is about an $18k-$20k premium. A $120k price sounds about right, maybe a touch higher with inflation.
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This is Dynojet result gents. From someone knowing and doing a thing or two about dyno, it's shocking.
Dynojet isnt your average dyno, and is not easily manipulated, as the ONLY type of dyno whose numbers can be compared and referenced regardless of when and where the test is performed. If it shows 120whp and 70 ft torque over the competition, it probably really is. SHOCKING to say the least. Also, the spool seems to be way better. If you don't mind, what gear is the dyno? If 50th Jare is 10s capable already, there could be something secretly done to the engine from BMW.
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I did. Scroll up to post #7
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- Carbon hood - carbon center console (id imagine the CS gets a custom center console so as to have cup holders, some creature comforts) - some sound deadening removed - some form of lightweight seat (I'd guess this is the normal carbon buckets as standard) - CCBs as an option at the least - forged alloys - strut bracing (I'd expect the CS gets the CSLs strut brace) - TI exhaust - carbon trim/carbon shift paddles - alcantara wheel Unique to the CSL will be: - manual buckets - removed rear seats - rear suspension (obviously the rose jointed rear suspension will be totally unique to the CSL due to its rear drive setup) - rear welded backplate - carbon trunk - the full sound deadening I guess the entire suspension will be different cause the CS is xdrive. So that's all up in the air. I'd expect both cars have totally unique damper tuning, suspension geometry, steering knuckles and dampers and damper setup, as well as software for steering etc. This is big money for engineering salaries etc and such, the CS will still be uniquely expensive. |
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However, as we have discussed in a different thread, I don't see the G80 CS having a bigger delta than past CS models over their competition counterparts. Maybe BMW swings for the fences here and that would get me even more excited about the car. But, I highly doubt there will be a significant suspension overhaul vs. a G80 X. Maybe some minor changes and new software. I'd be happy to be wrong though.
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