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      04-08-2022, 01:30 PM   #1
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Question Approximate wait times for build to order? What's the process like?

I'm just starting to entertain the idea of spec-ing out a M3 Comp. Optimistic timeframe is some time in the next 1.5-2yrs.

I'm curious as to what the build times / wait lists are like at Bellevue/Seattle/Northwest, if anyone knows?

Also, what is the standard/normal/expected deposit to start the process?

Thanks!

Edit: Updates as of 4/14, does not include build time
- BMW NW: 22 people in line, ~2 year wait, $1000 deposit (fully refundable)
- BMW Bellevue: Unknown
- BMW Seattle: M3 18 months, X3M 4-5 months, M340i 3-4 months
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I'm just starting to entertain the idea of spec-ing out a M3 Comp. Optimistic timeframe is some time in the next 1.5-2yrs.

I'm curious as to what the build times / wait lists are like at Bellevue/Seattle/Northwest, if anyone knows?

Also, what is the standard/normal/expected deposit to start the process?

Thanks!
Good luck, you need to get an allocation first which looks to be 1+ year wait knowing the queues at the local dealerships and everyone's current builds are being pushed back weeks. then you gotta wait 3+ months from production start to get the car to the dealer assuming there aren't any stop sales etc.
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      04-10-2022, 12:57 PM   #3
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Good luck, you need to get an allocation first which looks to be 1+ year wait knowing the queues at the local dealerships and everyone's current builds are being pushed back weeks. then you gotta wait 3+ months from production start to get the car to the dealer assuming there aren't any stop sales etc.
That's good info actually and may actually work with my timing. Guess it wouldn't hurt to put out some feelers. Thanks!
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That's good info actually and may actually work with my timing. Guess it wouldn't hurt to put out some feelers. Thanks!
It could also be useful to get to know a sales human at BMW Seattle or something and see if you can get on a list to be called if anyone backs out of their car at delivery. I know someone who snaked a C8 that way despite never having bought a Corvette before. Could get lucky.
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Way things are going order now and you may get by then. Just kidding,sorta.
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If you don't need 4 doors, you can get an M4 a lot faster than the M3. I can refer you to people at the Seattle and Tacoma. I actually picked up an M4 today, asked my sales guy a week ago and he had one incoming, the timing was perfect.
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Caden Powell at bmw seattle has been great for my xdrive order. I am getting my car this week.
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      04-11-2022, 12:48 PM   #8
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Emailed both Bellevue and Northwest over the weekend. Just got a reply from NW - 22 people on the list and approx 2 year wait.

Have not reached out to anyone at Seattle, as the site only has a phone number and I'm not at the stage where I want to waste someones time talking over the phone.

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Way things are going order now and you may get by then. Just kidding,sorta.
If I make a move, this will be exactly how I frame the conversation with my wife

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If you don't need 4 doors, you can get an M4 a lot faster than the M3. I can refer you to people at the Seattle and Tacoma. I actually picked up an M4 today, asked my sales guy a week ago and he had one incoming, the timing was perfect.
Good insight, however if/when I get something with 2 doors it'll be a 911. But I'll definitely take a referral to Seattle.

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Caden Powell at bmw seattle has been great for my xdrive order. I am getting my car this week.
Do you have a email for Caden you could DM me?
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Emailed both Bellevue and Northwest over the weekend. Just got a reply from NW - 22 people on the list and approx 2 year wait.

Have not reached out to anyone at Seattle, as the site only has a phone number and I'm not at the stage where I want to waste someones time talking over the phone.

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Way things are going order now and you may get by then. Just kidding,sorta.
If I make a move, this will be exactly how I frame the conversation with my wife

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If you don't need 4 doors, you can get an M4 a lot faster than the M3. I can refer you to people at the Seattle and Tacoma. I actually picked up an M4 today, asked my sales guy a week ago and he had one incoming, the timing was perfect.
Good insight, however if/when I get something with 2 doors it'll be a 911. But I'll definitely take a referral to Seattle.

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Caden Powell at bmw seattle has been great for my xdrive order. I am getting my car this week.
Do you have a email for Caden you could DM me?
12 month plus wait on 911's I hear too
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Emailed both Bellevue and Northwest over the weekend. Just got a reply from NW - 22 people on the list and approx 2 year wait.

Have not reached out to anyone at Seattle, as the site only has a phone number and I'm not at the stage where I want to waste someones time talking over the phone.

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Way things are going order now and you may get by then. Just kidding,sorta.
If I make a move, this will be exactly how I frame the conversation with my wife

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If you don't need 4 doors, you can get an M4 a lot faster than the M3. I can refer you to people at the Seattle and Tacoma. I actually picked up an M4 today, asked my sales guy a week ago and he had one incoming, the timing was perfect.
Good insight, however if/when I get something with 2 doors it'll be a 911. But I'll definitely take a referral to Seattle.

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Caden Powell at bmw seattle has been great for my xdrive order. I am getting my car this week.
Do you have a email for Caden you could DM me?
Done - good luck homie.
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I'm just starting to entertain the idea of spec-ing out a M3 Comp. Optimistic timeframe is some time in the next 1.5-2yrs.

I'm curious as to what the build times / wait lists are like at Bellevue/Seattle/Northwest, if anyone knows?

Also, what is the standard/normal/expected deposit to start the process?

Thanks!

Edit: Updates as of 4/11
- BMW NW: 22 people in line, ~2 year wait, $1000 deposit (fully refundable)
- BMW Bellevue: Unknown
- BMW Seattle: Unknown
Go to a dealer and ask them about incoming vehicles that you can get your hands on….If you aren't that picky about colors you will find one.. just gotta be persistent
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ordered 9/3 scheduled to pick up on 4/23 in Seattle. part shortage had me in purgatory for 97 days with no movement. landed in oxnard on 4/12.

if 4/23 sticks it will be 233 days.

considering 233DAW8 for an inside joke custom license plate.
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ordered 9/3 scheduled to pick up on 4/23 in Seattle. part shortage had me in purgatory for 97 days with no movement. landed in oxnard on 4/12.

if 4/23 sticks it will be 233 days.

considering 233DAW8 for an inside joke custom license plate.
Good to hear yours has a truck driver. Genius told me the May 5 estimated arrival in Oxnard could see a 1 or 2 week wait for a truck to leave for Bellevue. Hoping they're underpromising and overdelivering.
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Thanks Poffman for the referral. He responded right away with current wait times for allocations. Added it to the OP.
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Thanks Poffman for the referral. He responded right away with current wait times for allocations. Added it to the OP.
Glad to help man! Had nothing but transparency and good vibes with Caden. Helps he's a car guy.
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Emailed both Bellevue and Northwest over the weekend. Just got a reply from NW - 22 people on the list and approx 2 year wait.

Have not reached out to anyone at Seattle, as the site only has a phone number and I'm not at the stage where I want to waste someones time talking over the phone.



If I make a move, this will be exactly how I frame the conversation with my wife


Good insight, however if/when I get something with 2 doors it'll be a 911. But I'll definitely take a referral to Seattle.



Do you have a email for Caden you could DM me?

Is this cause of the supply chain thing ?

supposedly seattle is the highest M volume dealer in the area.... so they are getting 1-2 / month ?
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Anyone else feel like the inventory and supply chain problem is actually getting worse, not better?

I guess it's all the gradually unfulfilled and pent-up demand that is only driving the problem worse?
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Anyone else feel like the inventory and supply chain problem is actually getting worse, not better?

I guess it's all the gradually unfulfilled and pent-up demand that is only driving the problem worse?
Definitely getting worse mate. I'd say a high percentage of companies are still really struggling to get large quantities of stock.

Just look at some of the exhaust posts on here and how long many have had to wait.

What with high demand in most sectors, nobody is having the chance to build up stock; it's just immediately heading out the door and then we're back to waiting for the next small batch.
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Definitely getting worse mate. I'd say a high percentage of companies are still really struggling to get large quantities of stock.

Just look at some of the exhaust posts on here and how long many have had to wait.

What with high demand in most sectors, nobody is having the chance to build up stock; it's just immediately heading out the door and then we're back to waiting for the next small batch.
Very interesting times.
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Allocation usage is subject to the dealer's whims, correct? I'm getting the impression that dealers are letting customer orders pile up while they use available allocations for dealer orders that are designed to maximize profits, not to mention that they get to throw mark-ups on non-customer orders.

Does anyone know if I'm wrong or right? Is there any customer protection in the sense that BMWNA mandates a certain % of allocations to be only available for customer orders?
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BMW Seattle and Northwest are the only places charging MSRP, even for dealer orders. BMW Bellevue(The worst one) charges an ADM
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BMW Seattle and Northwest are the only places charging MSRP, even for dealer orders. BMW Bellevue(The worst one) charges an ADM
Bmw bellevue is charging ADM on orders?
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