[vj123]

There are rumors that BMW might not be offering G8x competition rwd for MY23.

If you own a G80/82 or have one on order with an allocation, answering this poll might give us an idea on the take rate between different variants (base / comp / comp xdrive). I didnt include G83 as its offered as a single variant.

PS: This is not a "manual vs automatic" or "rwd vs awd" debate thread.

[nearwater4me]

I think it makes sense to offer only xdrives for the competition models.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by nearwater4me

I think it makes sense to offer only xdrives for the competition models.

As a customer, i would be happy with more choices.

BMW is not offering manual as an option in some countries (UK).

[TJR_///M3]

Originally Posted by nearwater4me

I think it makes sense to offer only xdrives for the competition models.

1. I am about to show my age...
2. I am probably going to light a fuse with our xDrive members (sorry!)

The first M3 I drove was an E30 EvoII. I didn't own it (very sadly) and it was a number of years before I owned my first BMW... I worked for another OEM at the time.
Ever since then the M3 had a special meaning for me and that was stupendous performance in a 4/5 seater RWD car (and certainly not AWD).
I now have no issue with an AWD option - with the power of the current car it makes a lot of sense, especially in the snowier locations, and a G81 xDrive sounds like a seriously interesting car...
But... the day BMW doesn't offer the most powerful M3 in RWD format is the day they lose me. (Yeah, I know you can go RWD only on the xDrive, but emotionally it is not the same for me).

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by vj123

There are rumors that BMW might not be offering G8x competition rwd for MY23.

If you own a G80/82 or have one on order with an allocation, answering this poll might give us an idea on the take rate between different variants (base / comp / comp xdrive). I didnt include G83 as its offered as a single variant.

PS: This is not a "manual vs automatic" or "rwd vs awd" debate thread.

I would be curious as to what % of G8x owners are part of this forum. My guess - with the way BMW has positioned this being the most appealing/approachable generation from a mass market perspective - would be this forum only represents a small % of total G8x owners (at least a smaller % than F8X owners). And typically it's more enthusiast minded owners who join forums and also who are more likely to own the base model with the 6MT.

While I still think the 6MT will be in the overall minority even in this forum when all is said and done, I think the results from this poll might overstate the actual % share of 6MT owners.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

While I still think the 6MT will be in the overall minority even in this forum when all is said and done, I think the results from this poll might overstate the actual % share of 6MT owners.

100%. I'm fairly certain that the xDrive models get the lions share of real-world sales. The 6MT rates are somewhere in the 10-15% range, if memory serves, but on these forums it skews closer to 35%.

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I would be curious as to what % of G8x owners are part of this forum. My guess - with the way BMW has positioned this being the most appealing/approachable generation from a mass market perspective - would be this forum only represents a small % of total G8x owners (at least a smaller % than F8X owners). And typically it's more enthusiast minded owners who join forums and also who are more likely to own the base model with the 6MT.

While I still think the 6MT will be in the overall minority even in this forum when all is said and done, I think the results from this poll might overstate the actual % share of 6MT owners.

I'd be curious on the % who come to play here, as well. I think in the Pacific NW, it's a pretty low percentage. I would guess that there is a huge percentage of folk who don't go to forums simply because they don't generally go to forums for anything...regardless of their level of enthusiasm for their car. A friend of mine once bought a 911 (years ago) and spent about 20 minutes on Rennlist and never went back...all because he got slammed for not getting deviated stitching on his seats or something silly like that. The Internet isn't a nice place, and lots of folk just don't bother.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by TJR_M3

Ever since then the M3 had a special meaning for me and that was stupendous performance in a 4/5 seater RWD car (and certainly not AWD).
I now have no issue with an AWD option - with the power of the current car it makes a lot of sense, especially in the snowier locations, and a G81 xDrive sounds like a seriously interesting car...
But... the day BMW doesn't offer the most powerful M3 in RWD format is the day they lose me. (Yeah, I know you can go RWD only on the xDrive, but emotionally it is not the same for me).

Same exact reason why i got a RWD. AWD was a no brainer for conditions in Michigan but this this whole purchase is from the heart anyways.

Originally Posted by wtwo3

I would be curious as to what % of G8x owners are part of this forum. My guess - with the way BMW has positioned this being the most appealing/approachable generation from a mass market perspective - would be this forum only represents a small % of total G8x owners (at least a smaller % than F8X owners). And typically it's more enthusiast minded owners who join forums and also who are more likely to own the base model with the 6MT.

While I still think the 6MT will be in the overall minority even in this forum when all is said and done, I think the results from this poll might overstate the actual % share of 6MT owners.

I would assume anywhere between 10 - 20% of the owners to be active in the forum. It might be on the higher side as M owners might be enthusiastic than a regular vehicle. There is another set of crowd across all forums who disappears once they are done with the buying process.

G8x has a lions share of first time M owners (close to 60% from another poll response) and BMW has definitely expanded the customer base even though there was a lot of hate in the beginning. And yeah, manual take rate in forums is always higher than the actual market.

[LuvMyE92]

No one would pick the base model except for the manual transmission, so I don't understand the purpose of the poll, as is.

[playswcars]

xDrive all day for me. The Competition is a fantastic car.

[mzwerner]

Originally Posted by vj123

There are rumors that BMW might not be offering G8x competition rwd for MY23.

If you own a G80/82 or have one on order with an allocation, answering this poll might give us an idea on the take rate between different variants (base / comp / comp xdrive). I didnt include G83 as its offered as a single variant.

PS: This is not a "manual vs automatic" or "rwd vs awd" debate thread.

I took over a lease on my g82. If I had a choice I would have speced xdrive. I never turned xdrive off on my F90 M5.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by LuvMyE92

No one would pick the base model except for the manual transmission, so I don't understand the purpose of the poll, as is.

There was info that BMW is axing G80 comp rwd for MY23 because of low take rate. Purpose of this poll is to understand the split by variants as in the initial post.

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by TJR_M3

1. I am about to show my age...
2. I am probably going to light a fuse with our xDrive members (sorry!)

The first M3 I drove was an E30 EvoII. I didn't own it (very sadly) and it was a number of years before I owned my first BMW... I worked for another OEM at the time.
Ever since then the M3 had a special meaning for me and that was stupendous performance in a 4/5 seater RWD car (and certainly not AWD).
I now have no issue with an AWD option - with the power of the current car it makes a lot of sense, especially in the snowier locations, and a G81 xDrive sounds like a seriously interesting car...
But... the day BMW doesn't offer the most powerful M3 in RWD format is the day they lose me. (Yeah, I know you can go RWD only on the xDrive, but emotionally it is not the same for me).

Bro I love your posts most of the time but this post just doesn’t have any logic to it whatsoever. I thought about it and thought about it and it makes no sense. They ARE giving you a RWD option with the AWD model. The only thing that would make sense is if you said you will never care at all about AWD option and have zero need for it EVER and therefore you feel it’s a complete waste of the extra $4000. That would make sense. Well kind of.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by bri1042

A friend of mine once bought a 911 (years ago) and spent about 20 minutes on Rennlist and never went back...all because he got slammed for not getting deviated stitching on his seats or something silly like that.

What a wanker, good riddance.

[BMWM4CX]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

What a wanker, good riddance.

😂😂 this tickled me.

[TJR_///M3]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Bro I love your posts most of the time but this post just doesn’t have any logic to it whatsoever. I thought about it and thought about it and it makes no sense. They ARE giving you a RWD option with the AWD model. The only thing that would make sense is if you said you will never care at all about AWD option and have zero need for it EVER and therefore you feel it’s a complete waste of the extra $4000. That would make sense. Well kind of.

Thank you
I completely agree - it has no logic!
That is why I used the word 'emotionally' at the end. I honestly can't explain my rationale for this (and as an engineer that is somewhat troubling!).
I think my heart is telling my brain that if it has halfshafts to the front wheels - even if they are not delivering any torque - it is still not really RWD.
BTW - I am certainly not suggesting anyone should agree with me on this!

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by TJR_M3

Thank you
I completely agree - it has no logic!
That is why I used the word 'emotionally' at the end. I honestly can't explain my rationale for this (and as an engineer that is somewhat troubling!).
I think my heart is telling my brain that if it has halfshafts to the front wheels - even if they are not delivering any torque - it is still not really RWD.
BTW - I am certainly not suggesting anyone should agree with me on this!

I appreciate that brother. I was about ready to give myself a drug test. Lol

[Besharaf]

It makes sense to me to discontinue it. The xDrive can turn into RWD with a touch of a button. Its probably upsetting people they're forced to pay the extra $5k to get the xDrive.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by Besharaf

It makes sense to me to discontinue it. The xDrive can turn into RWD with a touch of a button. Its probably upsetting people they're forced to pay the extra $5k to get the xDrive.

Do you think the extra $5k will be an issue for people who are spending $85k on the vehicle plus several thousands on ppf and others mods.

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by Besharaf

It makes sense to me to discontinue it. The xDrive can turn into RWD with a touch of a button. Its probably upsetting people they're forced the extra $5k to get the xDrive

Why would you turn your AWD to a RWD?

You paid $5,000.00

So you can do a hook slide?

Makes zero sense.

I'm all 6MT

[gs1403]

Originally Posted by Besharaf

It makes sense to me to discontinue it. The xDrive can turn into RWD with a touch of a button. Its probably upsetting people they're forced to pay the extra $5k to get the xDrive.

Maybe some people would rather pay $4k less to not have 100 extra lbs at the front of the car.

[Besharaf]

Ok maybe the $5k part isn't upsetting, I take that back (I'm cheap).

But personally I wouldn't miss it if you have the option to turn it to RWD if your heart desires. It's a heavy car t begin with too