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      11-16-2021, 03:40 PM   #1
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Adaptive headlights allowed in the US finally.....

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Finally, our headlights in the US can catch up to the rest of the world.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43146/...structure-bill
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Long overdue! Now let's just hope BMW enables it for all the cars that were "decoded".
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      11-16-2021, 11:19 PM   #3
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Changes pending for some time.
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And slowly the bureaucracy trudges along.
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Wait what? Is this law a law that didn't exist before? Don't E9Xs have adaptive headlights?
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      11-17-2021, 09:46 AM   #7
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Wait what? Is this law a law that didn't exist before? Don't E9Xs have adaptive headlights?
No, they have self leveling and cornering capability, adaptive is moving the drivers headlight more to the left side when driving at slow speeds in order to have better vision of the road, and changing the light pattern when you speed up and stuff, look up variable decoding lights
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No, they have self leveling and cornering capability, adaptive is moving the drivers headlight more to the left side when driving at slow speeds in order to have better vision of the road, and changing the light pattern when you speed up and stuff, look up variable decoding lights
So you are referring to the feature which detects other cars' headlights and tail lights, and selectively changes your high beams light pattern to avoid glaring them? Are you saying this feature was never utilized in the States?
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So you are referring to the feature which detects other cars' headlights and tail lights, and selectively changes your high beams light pattern to avoid glaring them? Are you saying this feature was never utilized in the States?
Correct. It was turned off (decoded) on pre LCI.
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Finally, our headlights in the US can catch up to the rest of the world.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/43146/...structure-bill
it's still going to be 2-3 years before we see the effects and another 2-3 before car manufacturers adopt it.

I think most of us will have a new 2029 bmw in the driveway by then.
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I'm sure it would come with a cost.
$1 trillion to be exact
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What hardware is missing? Users have been undoing the decoding for a while now and have been successful. At least on the G30. The deactivation appears to be purely software for non-laser lights.
Some North American spec F series cars like the 2,3,4 LCI don't have the shutters needed to use glare free high beams properly. If you code it in you'll be blinding people as the tunneling effect won't work properly. Maybe it works okay on some models but it's definitely not fine on others. For example, It worked fine for my OGM2 that had adaptive xenon's but didn't work on my friends LCIM2 with adaptive LEDs. Headlight hardware is physically different from euro counter parts in some cases.
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Now thanks to the same bill we can buy used parts via PayPal and finally pay taxes on them! So exciting.
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$1 trillion to be exact
you forgot the inflation.
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Haha! I posted this, 3 days ago, and the post got deleted. Someone else posts it, and it's front page news.
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Some North American spec F series cars like the 2,3,4 LCI don't have the shutters needed to use glare free high beams properly. If you code it in you'll be blinding people as the tunneling effect won't work properly. Maybe it works okay on some models but it's definitely not fine on others. For example, It worked fine for my OGM2 that had adaptive xenon's but didn't work on my friends LCIM2 with adaptive LEDs. Headlight hardware is physically different from euro counter parts in some cases.
Thanks for the clarification.

I wonder if the overlap has to do with the Canadian market. As they allowed this starting in 2018 or something in that range. So the Canadian cars no longer are decoded and from my understanding use the same parts on the G30 as the US ones for headlights. Due to the small size of the Canadian market BMW probably found it cheaper to use the same light as the US with purely software versus doing two separate "NA" parts since Canada is also BMWNA.

But I am just a customer so no idea how they are doing it in reality.
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Haha! I posted this, 3 days ago, and the post got deleted. Someone else posts it, and it's front page news.
It was illegal to post 3 days ago.
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What about Lasers?
No idea, they're above my pay grade.
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No idea, they're above my pay grade.
damn I deleted my comment after 2 minutes to ask another question and you already responded.

I don't think Xenon lights ever had the adaptive option; swirling to light up the corners during turns maybe, but nothing like dimming specific points based on other cars' lights. You have to have LED arrays to accomplish something this sophisticated.
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I don't think Xenon lights ever had the adaptive option; swirling to light up the corners during turns maybe, but nothing like dimming specific points based on other cars' lights. You have to have LED arrays to accomplish something this sophisticated.
I think the newer adaptive xenon's are more complex and proficient than you think. My F87 with GFHB coded in was capable of detecting road signs at night on the highway and would turning on the right high beam to illuminate them while keeping the left one off. Never tried the tunneling feature but I'm almost certain it's functional. How good it is I don't know.
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It was illegal to post 3 days ago.
I posted it when I saw it on the news. After it was signed.
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damn I deleted my comment after 2 minutes to ask another question and you already responded.

I don't think Xenon lights ever had the adaptive option; swirling to light up the corners during turns maybe, but nothing like dimming specific points based on other cars' lights. You have to have LED arrays to accomplish something this sophisticated.
Xenon does have some adaptive features, but not the anti-dazzle I believe. I coded my Xenon to have the adaptive features that allow them to shift the drivers outboard and inboard depending on conditions and also adjust the level depending on the speed/conditions. Before it only "followed" the wheel to cornering and went up and down with the cars level only.
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