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      10-06-2021, 12:14 PM   #1
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The xDrive G80 M3 and G82 M4 are finally starting to be delivered, and this is a momentous occasion for BMW as it is the first time they have offered an M3/4 in 4WD. But has this ruined the driving dynamics of the car?

Having owned our RWD G80 M3 Competition from launch we have a fair amount of experience to see just how different this car is.

We are also looking forward to receiving our xDrive M4 next month.

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What a great review with a lot of useful information! Thanks for sharing!
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All things being equal, I still prefer a RWD car. I spent my 20's and early 30's driving Audi's (they abandoned the 6MT and drove me into BMW's arms with the F80 and I only wish I had left 10 years earlier).

Good feedback as always from Evolve.
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Obviously it's only one review so far but the good news is its all positive in terms of same driving feel as RWD and responsiveness with an increase in grip and confidence which were the big unknowns. Plus, the RWD option is this there when the mood strikes
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We are also looking forward to receiving our xDrive M4 next month.
Can't wait to fly across the pond to meet you in person! BTW, what watch are you wearing, because I'm into watches as well.
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appreciate the short and to the point review!
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Great review Imran, and you dressed to match the spec of the car!

Thanks for sharing!
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All things being equal, I still prefer a RWD car. I spent my 20's and early 30's driving Audi's (they abandoned the 6MT and drove me into BMW's arms with the F80 and I only wish I had left 10 years earlier).

Good feedback as always from Evolve.
Hmmm, don't know how old you are, but chances are high that Audi was still using V8 engines mounted in front of the axle and provoking understeer. While (you know) BMW is all about vehicle dynamics, equal weight distribution, and more neutral behaviour. The 4WD is not really changing that, it just adds more grip.
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We are also looking forward to receiving our xDrive M4 next month.
Can't wait to fly across the pond to meet you in person! BTW, what watch are you wearing, because I'm into watches as well.
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All things being equal, I still prefer a RWD car. I spent my 20's and early 30's driving Audi's (they abandoned the 6MT and drove me into BMW's arms with the F80 and I only wish I had left 10 years earlier).

Good feedback as always from Evolve.
Hmmm, don't know how old you are, but chances are high that Audi was still using V8 engines mounted in front of the axle and provoking understeer. While (you know) BMW is all about vehicle dynamics, equal weight distribution, and more neutral behaviour. The 4WD is not really changing that, it just adds more grip.
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We are also looking forward to receiving our xDrive M4 next month.
Can't wait to fly across the pond to meet you in person! BTW, what watch are you wearing, because I'm into watches as well.
From the look & feel of it, it seems like a Quartz
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All things being equal, I still prefer a RWD car. I spent my 20's and early 30's driving Audi's (they abandoned the 6MT and drove me into BMW's arms with the F80 and I only wish I had left 10 years earlier).

Good feedback as always from Evolve.
Hmmm, don't know how old you are, but chances are high that Audi was still using V8 engines mounted in front of the axle and provoking understeer. While (you know) BMW is all about vehicle dynamics, equal weight distribution, and more neutral behaviour. The 4WD is not really changing that, it just adds more grip.
The F87 M2 has 53/47 weight distribution.

The G80 M3 xDrive has a 53/47 weight distribution

Just an FYI.
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thanks Imran.
when are you expecting the delivery of your xdrive?
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thanks Imran.
when are you expecting the delivery of your xdrive?
Thank you, Imran. Great review. I can't wait until someone puts this car on the lift, so we can see the AWD geometry.
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Good review - good to see it still retains the feel of a RWD car.

One of these with downpipes and a tune is going to be epic!

Isle of Man M3 for me I think once prices come down a bit.....
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We are also looking forward to receiving our xDrive M4 next month.
Can't wait to fly across the pond to meet you in person! BTW, what watch are you wearing, because I'm into watches as well.
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We are also looking forward to receiving our xDrive M4 next month.
Can't wait to fly across the pond to meet you in person! BTW, what watch are you wearing, because I'm into watches as well.

If I am right, that's an Omega Speedmaster Dark Side of the moon!!!
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If I am right, that's an Omega Speedmaster Dark Side of the moon!!!
Definitely not a quartz

As above Black Black version.
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thanks Imran.
when are you expecting the delivery of your xdrive?
Went for an individual colour this time round which has delayed the order somewhat but hoping to have it next month.
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All things being equal, I still prefer a RWD car. I spent my 20's and early 30's driving Audi's (they abandoned the 6MT and drove me into BMW's arms with the F80 and I only wish I had left 10 years earlier).

Good feedback as always from Evolve.
Hmmm, don't know how old you are, but chances are high that Audi was still using V8 engines mounted in front of the axle and provoking understeer. While (you know) BMW is all about vehicle dynamics, equal weight distribution, and more neutral behaviour. The 4WD is not really changing that, it just adds more grip.
I'm 39 and I certainly understand the tendency towards understeer, had some very scary moments haha.

I understand your point, but the RWD experience is a little sportier.
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No talk of weight?
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I have trained in the F90 at the Ring, as 1 1/2 days of the program was in rain. The MxDrive was impressive, especially coming out of the slick turns, that I had no second thoughts with the G80/82/83 getting the system.

Makes sense with all the part/chip shortages that there hasn't been any formal press reviews for the G83. Those of that are ordering are going in site unseen
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I have trained in the F90 at the Ring, as 1 1/2 days of the program was in rain. The MxDrive was impressive, especially coming out of the slick turns, that I had no second thoughts with the G80/82/83 getting the system.

Makes sense with all the part/chip shortages that there hasn't been any formal press reviews for the G83. Those of that are ordering are going in site unseen
There are no press cars in the UK and I guess anywhere else as reviews are very thin on the ground. First time this has happened - customer cars getting delivered before any press cars.
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thanks for the review sir--- pretty much what I feel on my roads with my desires having owned or own both cars in the last 6 months (X and RWD). Im not sure of anyone else here who actually has had both cars though???

I even wrote this short blurb on my thread of the X drive:

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They pretty much echo what I felt originally--- no true discernable power loss being sucked up by the front drive train. I drive it in S3 or D3 with sport plus engine and AWD Sport MDM just like my M8. The car is just as nimble also and the only "oh so slight" variance is in the steering feel because of the added front drive portion.

The only true meaningful difference is in the grip where the RWD with my Race Chip would squiggle here and there even on warmer tires while the AWD controls the power thru AWD grip. I do feel that in a rolling race, stock to stock, the RWD would pull on the AWD but not by much. Maybe a 1-2 mph max. From a dig the AWD still has some lag at times Ive felt in regards to throttle to engine response and Im comparing this to my M8 and my former AWD M5 where the response was immediate. It could be due to the tq curve which is steep up to 3k rpms and then goes flat. The Race Chip does help here.

If I was to get a third G80- I would not really care if it was X or RWD; I would get it because of a different color I live where it rarely rains and when it does, its not torrential in nature so RWD is fine too.
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thanks for the review sir--- pretty much what I feel on my roads with my desires having owned or own both cars in the last 6 months (X and RWD). Im not sure of anyone else here who actually has had both cars though???

I even wrote this short blurb on my thread of the X drive:
I'll be able to assess soon as I just bought a RWD manual M3 and also have an Xdrive M3 coming as well (maybe a week or two out).
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