[jeffrc3m3]

Did you get ppf or not and do you have any regrets either way so far?

[kjx]

Why would pay for frozen paint if you were going to PPF it? You’d need to get stealth PPF at which point regular paint underneath is better.

[jeffrc3m3]

Originally Posted by kjx

Why would pay for frozen paint if you were going to PPF it? You’d need to get stealth PPF at which point regular paint underneath is better.

Frozen or not, I think a partial ppf is wise. Wondering what the experience has been.

[FISH22]

On my Frozen White, I DIY’d a bulk sheet of 3M matte on my hood. This was more of a project, but very straight forward job if you watch enough videos on how to do it.

I wanted to get the hood done as it’s a large metal surface and metal is pretty bad at taking rock hits. I may think about tackling the front bumper sometime soon, but that is probably beyond my skill level.

FYI, all in for the hood for material and supplies, was $220. Not bad at all. And from my experience, 3M matte has a near perfect finish against frozen, so it won’t stick out.

[jeffrc3m3]

Originally Posted by FISH22

On my Frozen White, I DIY’d a bulk sheet of 3M matte on my hood. This was more of a project, but very straight forward job if you watch enough videos on how to do it.

I wanted to get the hood done as it’s a large metal surface and metal is pretty bad at taking rock hits. I may think about tackling the front bumper sometime soon, but that is probably beyond my skill level.

FYI, all in for the hood for material and supplies, was $220. Not bad at all. And from my experience, 3M matte has a near perfect finish against frozen, so it won’t stick out.

Thanks for sharing!

[tsixtial]

My frozen blue is PPF’ed (entire car)

[jeffrc3m3]

Originally Posted by tsixtial

My frozen blue is PPF’ed (entire car)

You happy with the look post wrap. Does it still have the sheen of the frozen paint?

[jeffrc3m3]

Originally Posted by kjx

Why would pay for frozen paint if you were going to PPF it? You’d need to get stealth PPF at which point regular paint underneath is better.

You can't match the frozen color by wrapping a gloss point. People pay for custom gloss paint and then pof it, I don't see the difference.

[BRIGM3]

I have frozen portimao with no ppf and it's not the nightmare that people would have you believe it is. Very easy to maintain. No regrets going with frozen, and no plans to ppf.

[tsixtial]

Originally Posted by jeffrc3m3

You happy with the look post wrap. Does it still have the sheen of the frozen paint?

It looses a bit of sheen but I still love it.

It’s also ceramic coated so I don’t have to worry about anything for the most part. I do canyon runs, plan on tracking and rallying the car. I also drive out to Vegas to gamble 1-2 a month.

[kjx]

Originally Posted by jeffrc3m3

Frozen or not, I think a partial ppf is wise. Wondering what the experience has been.

I totally get the value of PPF - I’ve spent 11K on PPF + ceramic on two cars, and the M4 will get a full body PPF as I got it in an individual color that no touch up kit is available for.

I think we all agree that gloss PPF makes little sense on frozen paint.

The real question is if stealth PPF on frozen paint in any way noticeably better than stealth PPF on metallic/uni paint? If there is no noticeable difference (maybe or maybe not, I don’t know), why spend the extra on frozen paint? Partial PPF is a good reason, since you won’t have to do the whole car. But will the panels look mismatched then? It’s a question only people with frozen and partial PPF can answer.

[GregM4]

Originally Posted by jeffrc3m3

You can't match the frozen color by wrapping a gloss point. People pay for custom gloss paint and then pof it, I don't see the difference.

I totally agree with this, Frozen Paint is Frozen Paint, it looks amazing, and IM O can not be replicated by satin PPF. It is a great option for people with normal paint who want the frozen look for a while, but it is not the same IMO.

[Kminor2578]

Originally Posted by BRIGM3

I have frozen portimao with no ppf and it's not the nightmare that people would have you believe it is. Very easy to maintain. No regrets going with frozen, and no plans too ppf.

Me to and I thought it was going to be a nightmare but I ceramic coating with Dr. Beasley's. So
much easier to maintain then my SBM F80 and plus no swirl marks. I don't regret at all.

[Andrae26]

I have a frozen blue M3CS and the paint is very easy to maintain and I daily drive. 25k miles in 2 1/2 years and barely any rock chips or scratches. The paint is very strong.

[Jmpascual]

Originally Posted by jeffrc3m3

Did you get ppf or not and do you have any regrets either way so far?

I have frozen white and xpel PPF on my mirrors, hood, and front bumper. Everything else including the wheels are ceramic coated. Everything's good so far, high impact areas are protected and easy to clean and looks the same as the factory finish.

[Patton250]

Such a confusing thread. I avoided getting a frozen color which I wanted very badly all because I spoke to a couple of different professional ceramic coating companies and they said you can’t ceramic coat frozen paint. Not and have it keep its original look. Same thing with PPF. Please realize I know nothing of these things. Not even a little bit. The reason I originally asked before I went with frozen was because I was watching a video on the new G80 being ordered in late 2020 by a guy in England and they were discussing choosing frozen paint. The BMW genius said frozen is beautiful but a major pain in the ass to take care of. I have no idea what he meant so I started googling it. Most of what I read said you can’t ceramic coat frozen or PPF it. And of course that’s when I asked a couple of local shops here in Tampa and they said the same thing. So when I ordered my G80 I went with metallic paint.

I had a feeling when I read the title of the thread there would be all kinds of different opinions and sure enough there are. Next will be people getting defensive and some might even get sarcastic about their views on this. I’d like to avoid that if possible and just hear the reasons why people disagree with all the sources I found that said you shouldn’t do it. I need ceramic coat and PPF because I drive a lot of highway miles and have OCD. I can’t handle rock chips. :-)

[jeffrc3m3]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Such a confusing thread. I avoided getting a frozen color which I wanted very badly all because I spoke to a couple of different professional ceramic coating companies and they said you can't ceramic coat frozen paint. Not and have it keep its original look. Same thing with PPF. Please realize I know nothing of these things. Not even a little bit. The reason I originally asked before I went with frozen was because I was watching a video on the new G80 being ordered in late 2020 by a guy in England and they were discussing choosing frozen paint. The BMW genius said frozen is beautiful but a major pain in the ass to take care of. I have no idea what he meant so I started googling it. Most of what I read said you can't ceramic coat frozen or PPF it. And of course that's when I asked a couple of local shops here in Tampa and they said the same thing. So when I ordered my G80 I went with metallic paint.

I had a feeling when I read the title of the thread there would be all kinds of different opinions and sure enough there are. Next will be people getting defensive and some might even get sarcastic about their views on this. I'd like to avoid that if possible and just hear the reasons why people disagree with all the sources I found that said you shouldn't do it. I need ceramic coat and PPF because I drive a lot of highway miles and have OCD. I can't handle rock chips. :-)

There are definitely good ceramic coating now available for satin and matte paint. Professional, higher end detailers are comfortable using them. To me it comes down to personal preference. What is the lesser of two evils for you. PPF will protect from chips and scratches, but it definitely changes the sheen on the frozen paint (at least FDG). Dropped my car off today and had them put a sample on to look at it in person. I value the true frozen grey color over the chips and scratches that will inevitably happen, that's why only got front bumper, rockers and rear wheel impact with ppf and ceramic all over. If chips drive you crazy over the modified sheen then PPf is the way to go.

[tsixtial]

Originally Posted by jeffrc3m3

There are definitely good ceramic coating now available for satin and matte paint. Professional, higher end detailers are comfortable using them. To me it comes down to personal preference. What is the lesser of two evils for you. PPF will protect from chips and scratches, but it definitely changes the sheen on the frozen paint (at least FDG). Dropped my car off today and had them put a sample on to look at it in person. I value the true frozen grey color over the chips and scratches that will inevitably happen, that's why only got front bumper, rockers and rear wheel impact with ppf and ceramic all over. If chips drive you crazy over the modified sheen then PPf is the way to go.

The only issue with doing high impact area is those areas will look darker with less sheen. However I am not sure if you can tell so much on FDG. I have frozen blue and you can totally tell the areas that did have PPF were darker with lesser sheen.

[jeffrc3m3]

Originally Posted by tsixtial

The only issue with doing high impact area is those areas will look darker with less sheen. However I am not sure if you can tell so much on FDG. I have frozen blue and you can totally tell the areas that did have PPF were darker with lesser sheen.

I don't think it is as noticeable on FDG, but you can tell within 10 ft for sure. That's why I opted not to do the hood, but the front bumper will for sure take a beating so I got it done. I'Ill find out Friday when I pick it up!

[TrentMeister]

FBW full Stek dynamatt.

Piece of mind and ease of cleaning.

I can't tell a difference from the day I dropped it off to pickup and it's easy as hell to keep clean.

[psylovibe]

I went with FDG. My neighbor has a matte blue M5 and keeps it outdoors all year. The car still looks great after 2 years. I constantly inspect it to just make sure I made the right decision!

[Andrae26]

Originally Posted by tsixtial

The only issue with doing high impact area is those areas will look darker with less sheen. However I am not sure if you can tell so much on FDG. I have frozen blue and you can totally tell the areas that did have PPF were darker with lesser sheen.

That's why I don't have any PPF on my frozen blue M3CS. People think you get the same look with PPF on a gloss paint but it is definitely not as shiny as the factory frozen paint. I can tell instantly if a car is PPF stealth versus a factory matte paint. Some people say you can't tell the difference but that's cause they are blind.