M xDrive - All Wheel Drive. M3 and M4

Mani59 · 04-15-2021, 10:07 AM

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Scorp!on · 04-15-2021, 10:31 AM

50KG additional.

Is that a lot for All Wheel Drive?
Sorry I have no idea.

mirob · 04-15-2021, 10:32 AM

M xDrive with 2WD mode and 10-step TC (M Drive Professional/Track Mode) is a game changer compared to what's in the F9X.

dms-01 · 04-15-2021, 10:33 AM

50kg or 110lbs weight gain for AWD? I think its less than what people were projecting it was going to gain.

heavyD^2 · 04-15-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Scorp!on

50KG additional.

Is that a lot for All Wheel Drive?
Sorry I have no idea.

It's not bad. It does bump up the weight of a car that is already on the heavy side. I get that they invested a lot of time stiffening up the chassis to help improve the ride but it's a shame they couldn't have at shed a few more pounds here and there. I also realize that there's a balancing act as reducing weight adds cost so it is what it is and it's nice to have the option as it will make the car easier to live with 12 months a year in northern climates. AWD will overcome the added weight regardless in most cases.

jpsimon · 04-15-2021, 10:53 AM

I cannot wait for this!! What red interior is that? It's definitely not Fiona Red. Whatever it is looks incredible

PLF69 · 04-15-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

It's not bad. It does bump up the weight of a car that is already on the heavy side. I get that they invested a lot of time stiffening up the chassis to help improve the ride but it's a shame they couldn't have at shed a few more pounds here and there. I also realize that there's a balancing act as reducing weight adds cost so it is what it is and it's nice to have the option as it will make the car easier to live with 12 months a year in northern climates. AWD will overcome the added weight regardless in most cases.

For people who can only have 1 car, this should be a very very popular option.

I think I'm going to give it a shot with a base 6mt, buckets no option as a second/nice days/track car and see from there when AWD are more common and easy to test drive. If a snow storm falls I just take the Q5 but for 95% of winter that roads are on asphalt, no reason not to take the M3..

Scorp!on · 04-15-2021, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by heavyD^2

It's not bad. It does bump up the weight of a car that is already on the heavy side. I get that they invested a lot of time stiffening up the chassis to help improve the ride but it's a shame they couldn't have at shed a few more pounds here and there. I also realize that there's a balancing act as reducing weight adds cost so it is what it is and it's nice to have the option as it will make the car easier to live with 12 months a year in northern climates. AWD will overcome the added weight regardless in most cases.

OK so they basically did (again) a good job here with adding "only" 50Kg in the AWD variant.

If I wanted the AT I definetely would have gone with the AWD. I mean, you can literally switch to 2WD.
Amazing work BMW, amazing work.
(and I know I know, M5 and M8 had it already but still)

solstice · 04-15-2021, 11:02 AM

110 lbs is exactly in the range most of us guessed that made the effort to look up the latest BMWs offered in both Xdrive and RWD. My guess was 100 - 120 lbs. It should put an AWD car just above 3900 lbs given the scale weights we’ve gotten this far. 400 lbs gap to the M5, not bad.

I’m so excited, this is a revolutionary addition to the M3. Now just open the damn order book BMW

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MJO316 · 04-15-2021, 11:04 AM

Damn those M4s look good in that shop. Making me re-consider color choices.

GOLFFRR · 04-15-2021, 11:11 AM

Frozen black

solstice · 04-15-2021, 11:15 AM

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Frozen black

Buy a BSM and leave it parked a month in the scorching sun at a Cali. pier with ample ocean spray and you’ll have one

Loma · 04-15-2021, 11:36 AM

It looks like the ordering should be available soon. Can't wait!

mbanck · 04-15-2021, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

I cannot wait for this!! What red interior is that? It's definitely not Fiona Red. Whatever it is looks incredible

M GmbH's youtube account confirmed in the comments that it is Fiona Red, at least on the frozen color one

solstice · 04-15-2021, 02:41 PM

Nice how Peter is snubbing Audi on the AWD supremacy vs his M3 and instead call out the Subaru WRX as the AWD car he couldn’t catch

jpsimon · 04-15-2021, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mbanck

M GmbH's youtube account confirmed in the comments that it is Fiona Red, at least on the frozen color one

Fiona seems way brighter/more saturated based on all the photos I've seen unless they color corrected it to be more muted. I could be 100% wrong though that's for sure. It looks really good in this video.

Jcali86 · 04-15-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jpsimon

I cannot wait for this!! What red interior is that? It's definitely not Fiona Red. Whatever it is looks incredible

Pretty sure it's just orange in a darker environment

SYT_Shadow · 04-15-2021, 03:51 PM

That was a really cool video. We're getting to hear a bit from the actual geeky engineers who work on the cars instead of polished public speakers, aka marketing dudes, who are full of shit.

Good work BMW giving those who want this the option!

Remonster · 04-15-2021, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by solstice

Nice how Peter is snubbing Audi on the AWD supremacy vs his M3 and instead call out the Subaru WRX as the AWD car he couldn’t catch

It's probably true, have you ever seen an Audi going over 17mph on the road? They're usually the slowest moving objects on any given road even when it's nice and sunny.

cfm56d7b · 04-15-2021, 04:13 PM

Very informative video.

As "there are no revenues without costs", the extra weight of M xDrive is easily outweighed by the benefits.

solstice · 04-15-2021, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonster

It's probably true, have you ever seen an Audi going over 17mph on the road? They're usually the slowest moving objects on any given road even when it's nice and sunny.

Lol, yeah and the same cannot be said about the WRXs that’s for sure

KevinGS · 04-15-2021, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mirob

M xDrive with 2WD mode and 10-step TC (M Drive Professional/Track Mode) is a game changer.

Indeed

And it seems the engineers really tried to maintain as much steering feel as possible.

Dammit, BMW, you just made my decision harder. Wait for the AWD or get the 2WD? I don't need it for the inclement weather, simply for the better traction in all circumstances.

Still leaning towards RWD at this time, and then I'll likely trade this in for an LCI version in the final few years of the G8X's life cycle, and then I can move to AWD then if I'd like.

The next M is almost certain to be a hybrid of some sort, so the G8X may be a keeper.

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