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If the hood line is all about easier production line assembly to save money, then why do the cheaper 3er model variants have no hood line, and the most expensive premium model have the fugly design?
Contrast this to Mercedes-AMG who market their top-end cars on the basis that every engine is lovingly assembled by a single highly trained engineer who signs a numbered plaque in the engine compartment. What does this tell us about the philosophies of the two companies? Also, MB are putting in DCTs, and BMW are taking them out. For current generation cars, the F82 with M-DCT is still streets ahead of equivalent AMG from a driver engagement perspective, but I'm not sure I expect that to continue much longer (since next generation they will both be heavy GT cars). On the design and technology front, BMW are already behind imho. |
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03-10-2020, 09:45 AM | #355 |
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I would buy two of these. Take all my money.
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Another overlooked but significant is that in a low end shunt the nose cone absorbs the impact without damaging the hood itself. Therefore for insurance purposes costs will Be lower for initial repairs.
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It's the lack of consistency that bothers me with this infamous hood line. |
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I also compared the inner components between different German brands front bumpers and there is no difference in materials or approach in terms of front bumper. The others that use a long bonnet are also in conformity with pedestrian legislation. Audi decided to keep the long bonnet for design purposes and respect the required legislation by giving it the proper angles. Quote:
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03-10-2020, 02:04 PM | #360 |
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Now this front end looks aggressive. Love it.
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Disclaimer: not an SME in vehicle manufacturing/design... but I thought the reason the 992 went with "faux" exhaust tips was to reduce cost of repair in the case of a low speed rear end collision. I remember that being brought up a few times when it was released. Whether that is marketing speak or what I'm not sure.
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There are a multitude of points that needs to be met before I will consider manufacturer's sincere care about my wallet. The exhaust is also taken in consideration when they design (especially a sport vehicle). Materials used and engineering requirements (volume of gases to be pushed out determines the diameter/length) which determines the material and weight, where the catalytic converter is positioned, vehicle's weight distribution, sound that needs to be achieved, etc. For example, - For a diesel was better to have a pipe oriented not horizontal but towards the ground to "smash" the gases on the ground in order to disperse them. Some say it was just away to hide the pollution, while others came with graphics showing that this works, especially for the vehicles behind. Todays diesel though are really clean. - In some cases the exhaust was down because the particles will land on the vehicle, or the vehicle design was too prone in accepting gases inside (some vans, big open door hatches, etc), which were dangerous for the passengers. For this reason the pipe will be directed somewhere on the side of the vehicle. - In other cases, a rear engine vehicle must breath and that fresh air should not be influenced by the exhaust. - Some do it just for costs only, as a metal chrome tip is more money than a chrome plastic fake round that comes preinstalled in the bumper. Or just because it looks premium with no effort. - And in some cases, you will be amazed how much money a company saves by not using so much material. I don't know: Porsche is the company that charges me for a chrome ring on the dashboard and suddenly cares about my collision cost? I rather believe that they designed it to protect something that can do more damage if pushed forward in an accident. But that's my 2 cents. |
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I loved that I got a carbon-fiber driveshaft in my F82. I love that there are loads of places where engineers threw money at performance and weight saving to make the best car they could. But why cheap out on design of the premium model? (where customers are likely much less price sensitive). So, to make the logic clear, people who bought the base G20 models get a hood without a line, but they should also expect more expensive insurance claims? Last edited by pbar; 03-10-2020 at 08:11 PM.. |
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Sorry, I really like that look.
Very fresh. Same as when Audi came with the big grill.
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That looks even worse. I like the extended vertical grills, reminds me of old school like 20s 30s European roadsters.
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Why not do Lexus - predator grill. Ridiculous.
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