08-26-2021, 01:19 PM | #1 |
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What's a Moose test? Looks like M4 did poorly…
I'm not familiar with the Moose test, but result seems underwhelming. At least slalom looked good.
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aka lane toss. The final fail was lame, the driver was not aware of the cone position and knicked it. I think this is just more meaningless data, and doesnt really serve a lot of purpose as to the driving experience.
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There's another, longer thread on this elsewhere, look for it.
I think the test (in this case) was a bit bogus, as for sure they did it on cold tires.
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lol "There is almost no understeer"
That's a good thing. Looks like the driver simply turned too hard.
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01-12-2022, 09:44 PM | #5 |
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More context on other cars that pass or "fail" the moose test lol 😂
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Funny because I keep saying the z4 m40i takes violent turns perfectly and stays planted at speeds my m2 comp could dream of, along with the f80/f82 and g80 I've driven and ppl laugh.
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M owners are such fan boys. I've had m cars too. The g80 just wasn't worth the measly $5-15k over the z4. I'm telling you it has higher lateral g than the m3/4 and handles better and stays planted better. For example in this test ppl are claiming the guy ran cup 2s and it was cold. Doesn't matter. Put any tire and warm it up above 110 degrees Fahrenheit and it will still fail this test. The z4 doesn't. Now are there any tracks with turns like this? Of course not. But, in a short track with challenging corners the z4 and m3/4 would be neck and neck despite the z4 having 125 less hp. But realistically mine only has 50hp less and has 500lb ft of torque so.. That's enough to beat it. Sorry but the m3/4 are just TOO big
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I do not deny that the M4 is faster. Especially x drive. What Im saying all the time the M4 comp gains really comes from the faster acceleration and extra hp. Lets look at it this way. The z4 in Europe only has around 335whp and 369ft lb of torque. its 6 seconds slower because it literally has over 175hp less and over 120ft lb of torque less than the m4. all im saying is we match hp numbers with the m3/4 and acceleration, maybe throw in x drive so it gets out of corners faster, and we will have equal or better numbers for the z4. lets look at the a91 supra in the us with 382hp. Throttle House on youtube got .5 seconds faster than the m2 comp on their track, and as far as ive driven both cars, both supra and z4 drive the same and get near exact times. Why do people get M3/4? Because you want practicality and a longer car with 4 seats. If convertibles were popular and there was a z4m, it would beat the m3/4 for sure if it had the same hp and torque |
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I don’t really want to get involved in this but it feels like you are trying to prove to the entire G8X forum that your Z4 is faster.
I don’t want to speak for everyone but I certainly do not care about how fast your Z4 is in the slightest. I’m glad you got a car you enjoy and is good at the moose test. You win. Alright everyone else, please continue with the thread |
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@OP the driver had no idea how to handle the car in the video. That's ridiculous.
FISH22 did you leave the back door open, again. You're letting flies in. Bro, nobody gives 2 shits, or even 3 shits about your Z4. Its an M lite. I already went over to the Z4 section, from which you so mistakenly swayed away from, and the last 2 threads you created, over there, nobody read, either. "Why do people get M3/4?" Because we like it, and the Z4 is a chick car. "Because you want practicality and a longer car with 4 seats." So, the M4 has rear seats, but they're worthless if you're over 8 years old.. "If convertibles were popular" Well, they're not. "and there was a z4m, it would beat the m3/4 for sure if it had the same hp and torque." But it doesn't. That's what we're paying the extra money for. I'm struggling to understand the point, here. It's a chick car. It looks like Pontiac Solstice, and nobody cared about that car either. Your Z4 fanboy is showing. This is all I can see when I picture someone driving around in a Z4, blasting the Peanuts theme song, with the top down. Shoot me your address, and I'll send you a scarf and some driving gloves for your birthday.
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I'm really close to getting a Z4 ... for my wife (no joke ). I've tried it back to back against my G82, and it's no contest ... it's on a different class, just like the Supra. Doesn't mean they're bad, far from it, but they're not on the same level. |
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“For your wife.” Exactly..
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Mine was also for the wife. Yall got it backwards.
Idk why you're all crying I just said the z4 handles better becsuse it has to. Shorter heigbt length and wheelbase and it's wide. Yall getting so upset your crying like babies because you bought one m4 and have to defend it. Yea the m4 is nice. The only thing I said is the z4 handles better that's it. Didn't say it was faster or even faster around a track than an m4. |
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But no really the m4 was always too big anyway even the f80. Thays why I had a f87, and now, the g29? Why? I follow where the LEAST weight and smallest size is. To suggest that a smaller car that weighs less can handle better is blasphemy I suppose. But I already expected these responses hehe. Also what does "chick" car mean? This sounds unbelievably insecure. So you bought a car just to show this image that your totally a "man"? Lmao. You know what. Are you in socal? Let's do time trials at big willow and bet money who will get a faster lap, you in your m4 or me in a plain "chicks car". The track has a lot of straights but I'm 100% sure you'll choke in the corners. Let's go |
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You guys forget the M2 comp was lauded by critics as the best m car ever including on the track. Well, I've tracked both and the z4 always gets better lap times. Always. And no its not that I "got better", I was pushing each car to the max it can handle and explain how the z4 beats a full m car on the track. Even bmw said the z4 beat the m2 comp on the nurburgring on their own tests. Yall can't. I just want a light weight small, 2 seat, (possibly open air)track car. And that's why my next car is a z06 |
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3400+lbs, 15+feet / 180"+, roadster ... For a minute there I thought you were talking about a Lotus!! I wasn't even going to reply to this as I do actually think the car is good, but that's too funny!! Thank you!! Last edited by RM73; 02-08-2023 at 10:12 AM.. |
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Also, if you get 700hp to beat me? Doesn't that just prove you win due to hp alone lol? Ok then I'll throw in pure turbos and similar suspension to yours so we're equal. I'd still win. Quote:
Got it for the wife but also because I liked the look and now I prefer driving it more. I still barely put 2000-3000 miles per year on it though. But roadsters are fun especially with thr b58. Try it, it's music to the ears in back roads or canyons with no cars around. 👍🏻. Also if I was a f1 driver I'd be David Coulthard or Mika hakkinen. McLaren from 1995-2005 all the way. Quote:
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