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      08-20-2021, 06:21 PM   #1
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Unhappy Brake Dust Situ

As we all know, the dust is insane.

Is there any options available that prevents me from cleaning these god awfully beautiful busy wheels? Can I use track pads in the meantime even though I will be driving street? Not sure if those have less dust.

Is there a way to get carbon pads or anything on the regular brakes cause I didn't realize the dust situation would be this bad. (Wish I got CCBs - but that's for next time)

Is there a brand at the very least that produces what I'm looking for, that I have to wait for? But it'll be exactly in my needs of street + dust improvement etc.

Sorry for the new thread, I know we have like 4 threads on this, but I feel like people overlook those.
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Brembo brake dust sucks. I see these post on every model of car Ive had with Brembo Brakes. My M4 is probably my 10th car with Brembos, and its the same story, everytime. I went with CCBs this time. Doesnt really matter what pads you go to, you can minimize it, and very little, but it will always be a mess, within 10-20 miles.
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Brembo brake dust sucks. I see these post on every model of car Ive had with Brembo Brakes. My M4 is probably my 10th car with Brembos, and its the same story, everytime. I went with CCBs this time. Doesnt really matter what pads you go to, you can minimize it, and very little, but it will always be a mess, within 10-20 miles.
Also with CCB's?
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      08-23-2021, 04:12 PM   #4
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Also with CCB's?
My car just went into Body assembly begins, this morning, so, I dont know, yet. Im hearing both, its about 90% less, but you still get some dusting. However, it may be more road dust than actual brake dust.
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Also with CCB's?
My car just went into Body assembly begins, this morning, so, I dont know, yet. Im hearing both, its about 90% less, but you still get some dusting. However, it may be more road dust than actual brake dust.
That sounds good. I think im going with CCB's, i dont Track the car so they should last very long. My only reason is less dust
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That sounds good. I think im going with CCB's, i dont Track the car so they should last very long. My only reason is less dust
I hoping to get a really good baked on ceramic coating for the wheels. Something so good, that the little brake dust they will make, wont stick. Im 100% the same way. Ill pay the $8,100 for near zero brake dust.
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I've learn this the hard way. 5 mile trip= bronze wheels. I would of happily paid to have CCB.
One thing I do to minimize dust is downshift and let the engine do the braking to minimize me pressing on the brakes. It helps some but still get a nice coat of dust.
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      08-24-2021, 07:25 AM   #8
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As a general rule, the better the pads, the more dust they generate.

However, on my G30 (540i) BMW went with a low dust pad, and they worked pretty darn well and the wheels stayed relatively clean. But, you will notice a performance change (and not in a good way) when you go to a less dust pad. And of course, that's on the 4 door family car sedan with no sport pretensions.

These are performance cars, with performance brakes. That is, unfortunately, the cost of doing business.

And FWIW, I have seen many folks on Rennlist say that they spent the coin for the CCBs purely to reduce the brake dust. It's cheaper to buy a few extra sponges, but I'm one of those guys who washes the car weekly and doesn't mind (terribly) spending an extra 10 minutes to clean the wheels.
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Fwiw i replaced my pads with ebc bluestuff track pads and the dust on daily driving is much lower than oem
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Fwiw i replaced my pads with ebc bluestuff track pads and the dust on daily driving is much lower than oem
How easy is it to replace the pads yourself?
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Fwiw i replaced my pads with ebc bluestuff track pads and the dust on daily driving is much lower than oem
How easy is it to replace the pads yourself?
Assuming you have a good set metric tools, Its fairly straightforward, you must remove the calipers front and rear, and retract the parking brake in the rears using a 9v battery and some wire. Open your master cylinder and you can push the pistons back with just your hand.

If you've never done brakes might be a bit daunting.

You'll need some high temp anti seize too.
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Assuming you have a good set metric tools, Its fairly straightforward, you must remove the calipers front and rear, and retract the parking brake in the rears using a 9v battery and some wire. Open your master cylinder and you can push the pistons back with just your hand.

If you've never done brakes might be a bit daunting.

You'll need some high temp anti seize too.
Thank you for laying out the details, I greatly appreciate it! I am going to scour Youtube for some videos and tutorials to help build my confidence, then go for it.
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Thank you for laying out the details, I greatly appreciate it! I am going to scour Youtube for some videos and tutorials to help build my confidence, then go for it.
Most important tool - Either a wire coat hanger, or a set of 2 - 18" long heavy cable ties to hold up the brake calipers from the springs, so you dont put pressure on the brake lines.

Its really not that difficult, take your time. And make sure everything is torqued down before you put the wheels back on...
(dont ask me why I said that .
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Assuming you have a good set metric tools, Its fairly straightforward, you must remove the calipers front and rear, and retract the parking brake in the rears using a 9v battery and some wire. Open your master cylinder and you can push the pistons back with just your hand.

If you've never done brakes might be a bit daunting.

You'll need some high temp anti seize too.
Sil Glyde is recommended as it will not damage rubber https://www.autozone.com/greases-and...oz/752442_0_0?
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Fwiw i replaced my pads with ebc bluestuff track pads and the dust on daily driving is much lower than oem
Do you have a link as to where to buy these? I'm looking for the yellow option but cannot find them online.
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I will for sure spend 8k for CCB next time. Im so over cleaning gloss black wheels.
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I will for sure spend 8k for CCB next time. Im so over cleaning gloss black wheels.
Yea too late for me to get CCBs. Looking for an option for pads. I'm sure there has to be a good one
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Yea too late for me to get CCBs. Looking for an option for pads. I'm sure there has to be a good one
Ive heard a few friends of mine recommend carbtech? or something carb... for low dust pads. But I think someone else said the dust is still there. But instead of it being brown, its silvery.

I ceramic coated my wheels and while that does help, its not enough. CCB for me next time FOR SURE.
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