[wavyyyy]

I wonder if we can change our gear ratio? Haven’t seen anyone do it yet.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by wavyyyy

I wonder if we can change our gear ratio? Haven’t seen anyone do it yet.

718 manual folks have done it, but it's $$$$. They have the opposite problem--gears are way too tall, and it's pretty easy to go to jail in 2nd gear. Takes a lot of fun away from the MT if you never need to shift.

[wavyyyy]

Originally Posted by geko29

718 manual folks have done it, but it's $$$$. They have the opposite problem—gears are way too tall, and it's pretty easy to go to jail in 2nd gear. Takes a lot of fun away from the MT if you never need to shift.

I feel like our gears are too tall mostly too. I live in New York and top of 2nd is already illegal. Top of 3rd is wildly illegal. I’d love to row through a bunch.

[HeelToeShift]

1) Are you loving it
-By and large yes. Just passed 13K miles on my 2021 M3.
2) Is the shifter feel mechanical enough for you
-To be honest, no. My other cars have been Porsche recently (and lots of M cars from past 3 gens) and my last two have been 718 GT4s in manual (yellow and now shark blue) but it just does not come close. The shifter, the clutch feel, clutch engagement are all really lacking in comparison.
3) What has your clutch engagement been in sport vs efficiency modes
-No difference to me here.
4) Time it takes for Transmission to warm up
-15/20 mins?
5) Points you like to share
-The car IMO drives best when you're driving it a bit more aggressively.

All that being said, I cannot help but think the ZF is probably the transmission best matched to the car, and you definitely feel the extra torque in the comp model. Also that being said, I am close to trading my G80 M3 in for a new Verde Montreal Giulia Quad. Always thought this was a better driver's car than anything German in it's class with a level of charm a character that only cars like a GT Porsche or higher provide.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by wavyyyy

I feel like our gears are too tall mostly too. I live in New York and top of 2nd is already illegal. Top of 3rd is wildly illegal. I’d love to row through a bunch.

As someone who owns both, the BMW gears are too short, especially first. The GT4 might be ok with slightly shorter gears, but IMO unless you've owned one and driven it every day (I put 10K miles on my first one) you dont have experience to say. It's totally a non-issue.

[rak299]

I've had mine since April, 2021 (14,000 miles). I bought it because it was the only sedan with a MT. No regrets.

[MT6]

Originally Posted by pointguard

Curious to see what your thoughts are OP, since you had/have a CTR. I’m coming from one, having a G80 on order after renting a G80 through Turo. I feel that the shifter/clutch feel in the FK8 are fantastic, and very easy to use on a daily basis. Whereas in the G80, my impression was essentially “well, at least it comes in a manual.” I had difficulty getting adjusted to the where the clutch engaged, with a jerky 1-2 upshift maybe 40% of the time. Also, driving in Efficient did make it somewhat more manageable.

I love the G80 MT yeah it's a different feel from Honda CTR but the powertrains are different too

Throttle response on G80 is uber sensitive I compare it to Accord Coupe V6 it's SOHC 3.5L NA engine revs effortlessly.....point being it's easier to teach my nephew to drive stick shift on the CTR vs the Accord...the rolling from a dead stop part.

[MT6]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

As someone who owns both, the BMW gears are too short, especially first. The GT4 might be ok with slightly shorter gears, but IMO unless you've owned one and driven it every day (I put 10K miles on my first one) you dont have experience to say. It's totally a non-issue.

Agreed I like to spend time with a powertrain, Car and Driver long term tests are 40K miles.

I drove my colleagues 2002 911 Turbo for 10 miles I liked it but to experience the ins & outs of the car I would love it for 10K miles

[MT6]

Originally Posted by Thisisthecarguy

I have had my car for a month - 2023 M4. The shift action and the clutch have exceeded my expectations. I was concerned to get the manual based on comments about rubbery shifter and rough 1-2 shifts etc. I have experience none of that. To me the shifter “shnicks” (highly technical term) into each gate with a very satisfying feel and the clutch take up has smooth and predictable. If one is on the fence about getting one of the last (relatively) affordable new cars with a manual, I say go for it while you still can.

This manual transmission & S58 likes to be driven hard

[MT6]

Originally Posted by vbb

I've got nearly 6k miles behind the wheel on my 2022 G82 6MT and have absolutely zero regrets. I've had many different manual vehicles over the years, including some of the most popular (S2000, Porsche, Corvette, Mustang and Miata) and prefer my sports and sporty cars with a manual transmission. I have about 25yrs of driving manuals under my belt, and would put the G82 feel somewhere near the top for smoothness and most daily-driveable. The S2000 had the best shifter feel hands down and this doesn't touch that, but the G82 is easy to drive. I have no issues at all with the 1-2 shift. Coming from a C7 corvette with an aftermarket shifter, the G82 is much lighter in feel.

I'm definitely a fan of manual transmissions though and didn't even consider this car without one, so im biased.

I have never driven a Honda S2000 note the engine was making 153 lb-ft of Torque @ 7500 rpm...does not impact the shift linkages but no heavy duty clutch plate required

Miata I did drive with a Manual and it was a treat

[Thisisthecarguy]

Originally Posted by MT6

This manual transmission & S58 likes to be driven hard

I agree - even though I am still in the break in period and being very careful not to exceed 4k, I can tell as I push the revs the car really comes alive.

[Flying05]

I'll add that the manual is also in some way theft proof. And in my family, wife proof. She can't drive manuals. . Win/Win

[MT6]

Originally Posted by Flying05

I'll add that the manual is also in some way theft proof. And in my family, wife proof. She can't drive manuals. . Win/Win

Back in Nov 2019 leaving Vegas my CTR nose caught a tumbleweed that rolled underneath an Explorer.

I go to pick the car up at Service King and there is a delay, there were 3 dudes at work that did not know how to drive a stick…it was a Woman at the reception did the insurance paperwork and than walked back into the shop and drove the car out for me

[DFW_M]

I am on my second day and as expected -- very familiar feel, shifts, smoothness, rubberness... I love the BMW 6MT and have been using it since 2002.

[MichaelB1969]

Originally Posted by Thisisthecarguy

am...being very careful not to exceed 4k

It's under 5,000 rpm (or 106 mph) and avoid full throttle or kickdown "under all circumstances" for the first 600 miles.

Then under 6,000 rpm (or 130 mph), and avoid full throttle in gears 1 to 3 for the second 600 miles.

Don't use launch control until after break-in.

[Hoovzz777]

Has anyone tried to install toyota supra shifter into manual m3 or m4? Supposedly supra shifter is less rubbery and heavier, since supra is almost a bmw maybe the shifter would fit into our cars

[Thisisthecarguy]

Originally Posted by MichaelB1969

It's under 5,000 rpm (or 106 mph) and avoid full throttle or kickdown "under all circumstances" for the first 600 miles.

Then under 6,000 rpm (or 130 mph), and avoid full throttle in gears 1 to 3 for the second 600 miles.

Don't use launch control until after break-in.

Thanks - so I’ve been extra conservative during the break in.

[mcsquared]

Bringing this thread back to the top…now that you all have had more seat time in your manuals, what’s your consensus? Still loving it, or, wish you’d have gone for the Comp. XD? Just curious…as I am patiently waiting for mine to arrive at the dealership in the next week or 10 days.

[GrannyShiftG80]

Originally Posted by mcsquared

Bringing this thread back to the top…now that you all have had more seat time in tour manuals, what’s your consensus? Still loving it, or, wish you’d have gone for the Comp. XD? Just curious…as I am patiently waiting for mine to arrive at the dealership in the next week or 10 days.

Still loving it but just wish it wasn't so slow stock

Looking at a tune real soon

[mcsquared]

Originally Posted by Allenssmart

Still loving it but just wish it wasn't so slow stock

Looking at a tune real soon

So, you’ve gotten used to the power, and it’s no longer enough?

[omaralt]

Originally Posted by mcsquared

Bringing this thread back to the top…now that you all have had more seat time in tour manuals, what’s your consensus? Still loving it, or, wish you’d have gone for the Comp. XD? Just curious…as I am patiently waiting for mine to arrive at the dealership in the next week or 10 days.

still love it. no complaints.

[wtwo3]

I'm still loving it as well. Added a clutch stop and that definitely helped eliminate the needless clutch travel. Now thinking about doing a CDV delete to make things extra crispy.

I did recently drive a comp, and while it's definitely significantly faster, there are moments of lag. I think I'd be happy either way, but definitely don't regret getting the 6spd.