At The Port Thread - Status "193"

petrol_phxz · 05-24-2022, 11:58 AM

I think there is a lot more to it than BMW, specifically the shipping side of things.

As we all know, logistics are a total cluster F right now and ocean shipping is no exception. Ports are seeing strikes, lack of workers, etc. Boats are short of crews so less are running. This then backs up the ports, which backs up when things can ship out, etc.

They having timing down pretty good. If they know there is going to be a big delay at a given port, the boat might be delayed a few days or rescheduled to skip that port entirely, thus your car might get stuck waiting for the next ship.

It sucks for sure, especially when we are this far along. It pains me to know my car is just sitting outside in Germany when it could be in transit to me and thus to my garage. But this is the situation. It's a bit exciting and crushingly disappointing at the same time. When we do get our cars though, we'll have a great story to tell ages from now.

Svergel91 · 05-24-2022, 02:49 PM

Finally flipped to in transit for the second time and made it onto "don carlo" vessel. Scheduled to arrive 6/6. It's been a long two months lol

Mark Kez · 05-24-2022, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petrol_phxz

I think there is a lot more to it than BMW, specifically the shipping side of things.

As we all know, logistics are a total cluster F right now and ocean shipping is no exception. Ports are seeing strikes, lack of workers, etc. Boats are short of crews so less are running. This then backs up the ports, which backs up when things can ship out, etc.

They having timing down pretty good. If they know there is going to be a big delay at a given port, the boat might be delayed a few days or rescheduled to skip that port entirely, thus your car might get stuck waiting for the next ship.

It sucks for sure, especially when we are this far along. It pains me to know my car is just sitting outside in Germany when it could be in transit to me and thus to my garage. But this is the situation. It's a bit exciting and crushingly disappointing at the same time. When we do get our cars though, we'll have a great story to tell ages from now.

Mark Kez · 05-24-2022, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by j0e612

What did they end up saying

A lot of gobble goop! Different story than the previous genius told me and that’s always upsetting. Good news is that it was finally dispatched from the factory this morning and so hope is alive!

NightWriter · 05-24-2022, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 22M4C

I put deposit down on an allocation on 4/28. Arrived at port today. I wonder if it has more to do with the dealership and their sales numbers…definitely doesn’t appear FIFO…maybe also a factor of the way the vehicle is optioned. IDK

I know it's tempting for us to discern patterns or reasons why one car gets on a boat sooner than others. I agree it's not FIFO, at least not strictly so. But otherwise I think there's just a lot of variables and challenges they're dealing with, many outside of their control, that affect these logistics.

(Though I completely doubt they're factoring in customer or dealer details, or financing considerations. They've got enough to worry about.)

Ashahin · 05-24-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 22M4C

I put deposit down on an allocation on 4/28. Arrived at port today. I wonder if it has more to do with the dealership and their sales numbers…definitely doesn’t appear FIFO…maybe also a factor of the way the vehicle is optioned. IDK

Definitely agree on dealer to dealer difference AND the options, no doubt actually, but was just wondering if that was another potential factor that presented itself based on what I experienced last week

j0e612 · 05-24-2022, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Svergel91

Finally flipped to in transit for the second time and made it onto "don carlo" vessel. Scheduled to arrive 6/6. It's been a long two months lol

im just curious how did you find out what boat you are on, searched the don carlos on marinetraffic went to Zeebrugge first and then is heading to Bremerhaven. maybe you got picked up at Zeebrugge?

vj123 · 05-24-2022, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by j0e612

im just curious how did you find out what boat you are on, searched the don carlos on marinetraffic went to Zeebrugge first and then is heading to Bremerhaven. maybe you got picked up at Zeebrugge?

Call your CA or Genius.

NightWriter · 05-24-2022, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vj123

Call your CA or Genius.

Someone ought to create a detailed guide about ordering and tracking BMWs. It could be pinned and easily referenced.

vj123 · 05-24-2022, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NightWriter

Someone ought to create a detailed guide about ordering and tracking BMWs. It could be pinned and easily referenced.

We have one in the same section of this forum.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1811516

figuec56 · 05-24-2022, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashahin

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Originally Posted by NightWriter

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The shipping company gets to decide what gets on the ship first? Or does BMW control that? It's crazy how some CA go above and beyond for some individuals while you have other CA who are only friendly during the order process.

No, I'm fairly certain that manufacturers tell the shipping companies which vehicles to load and where they're headed.

I have alot of theories on how they schedule but I am wondering if the finances are taken in account (for revenue purposes)? I.e: cash vs finance vs lease, if lease or finance what is the money down etc.... I know it's a long shot but wouldn't that be a possibility or am I over thinking this?

Also, I see a trend of people waiting on allocations for months and others getting it right away and the right away people get in and out of production quickly. But then these people got stuck at ports and the people waiting long and got delayed the most get on ships faster.
In my deposit was put down 10/28/2021 allocation came 2/27/2022 for production week 9. I just hit 151 today for week 21 production.
Others put deposit mid jan and got allocations end of January went into production end of Feb/ beginning of March. (I understand that each dealership differs as each geography has different demand)

Anyone can oppose or validate my observation?

Not a lot of information sent to BMW prior to completion of paperwork from the dealership. Dealerships are separate business. I'm not sure anyone but BMW knows why some cars get through the way they do. One thought I had, does the performance delivery affect priority or not.

In short dealerships can affect who gets an allocation, but after that it's bmw and they seem to do what they want. My guess is logistics and smallest financial impact.

NightWriter · 05-25-2022, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by vj123

We have one in the same section of this forum.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1811516

Dude...

vj123 · 05-25-2022, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NightWriter

Dude...

Sorry, it was a long day

Mark Kez · 05-25-2022, 06:26 PM

I’m officially one of you, or us cause I’m at the port too!! Never been so happy to be at the end of a long ass line before in my life!! Keeping hope alive!!

SaMaster14 · 05-25-2022, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Kez

I’m officially one of you, or us cause I’m at the port too!! Never been so happy to be at the end of a long ass line before in my life!! Keeping hope alive!!

Welcome to the port!

Mark Kez · 05-25-2022, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SaMaster14

Welcome to the port!

NightWriter · 05-25-2022, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Kez

I’m officially one of you, or us cause I’m at the port too!! Never been so happy to be at the end of a long ass line before in my life!! Keeping hope alive!!

Welcome aboard. Pull up a chair and make yourself comfortable. It may be a while.

50shadesofhockenheim · 05-25-2022, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark Kez

I’m officially one of you, or us cause I’m at the port too!! Never been so happy to be at the end of a long ass line before in my life!! Keeping hope alive!!

I'm already over it after 2 weeks lol. You will be too

petrol_phxz · 05-25-2022, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 50shadesofhockenheim

I'm already over it after 2 weeks lol. You will be too

Haha same. But when the next stage hits you get that nice dopamine rush for about a day until the dread of "ok time for the next delay" kicks in.

For me, once its gets on the boat I'm fearful of long delays at the VPC.

Mark Kez · 05-25-2022, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NightWriter

Welcome aboard. Pull up a chair and make yourself comfortable. It may be a while.

I got a feeling!! Now I’ve had this feeling before, but this time the BMW spirits are gonna do right by me, they owe me from the last Bimmer!! Keep hope alive!!

Mark Kez · 05-25-2022, 10:39 PM

Come on gents! I know many of you have been at the port for a few weeks, but the odds are seriously in your favor!! I’m telling you all, I got a feeling!! Keep hope alive!! And if that fails, remember BMW won’t make a dime until we get our cars so what do you think they’re doing right now? Working their butts off to get our cars onto the next boat!! KHA!!

Mark Kez · 05-25-2022, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by petrol_phxz

Haha same. But when the next stage hits you get that nice dopamine rush for about a day until the dread of "ok time for the next delay" kicks in.

For me, once its gets on the boat I'm fearful of long delays at the VPC.

Or the ship catching fire, or sinking, or the wife finding out how much you really paid for it, or where the kids college fund went, or the US going to war with BMW. I got a million of them!! KHA!!

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05-24-2022, 11:58 AM	#133
petrol_phxz Second Lieutenant 287 Rep 286 Posts Drives: 2022 M3 X-Drive Comp. Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: PHX iTrader: (0)	I think there is a lot more to it than BMW, specifically the shipping side of things. As we all know, logistics are a total cluster F right now and ocean shipping is no exception. Ports are seeing strikes, lack of workers, etc. Boats are short of crews so less are running. This then backs up the ports, which backs up when things can ship out, etc. They having timing down pretty good. If they know there is going to be a big delay at a given port, the boat might be delayed a few days or rescheduled to skip that port entirely, thus your car might get stuck waiting for the next ship. It sucks for sure, especially when we are this far along. It pains me to know my car is just sitting outside in Germany when it could be in transit to me and thus to my garage. But this is the situation. It's a bit exciting and crushingly disappointing at the same time. When we do get our cars though, we'll have a great story to tell ages from now. __________________ Driving: 2022 M3CX \| Skyscraper Grey \| Full leather Silverstone Interior \| Carbon Fiber Trim \| M Carbon Bucket Seats \| Parking Pack \| Executive Pack \| Laser Lights \| M Shadowline Lights \| 826M Jet Black Wheels \| Red Calipers
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05-24-2022, 02:49 PM	#134
Svergel91 First Lieutenant 250 Rep 322 Posts Drives: F80 marina M3 Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: New jersey iTrader: (1)	Finally flipped to in transit for the second time and made it onto "don carlo" vessel. Scheduled to arrive 6/6. It's been a long two months lol
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Mark Kez Lieutenant Colonel 2202 Rep 1,582 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Syracuse NY iTrader: (0)	‘One of us!’ I’m officially one of you, or us cause I’m at the port too!! Never been so happy to be at the end of a long ass line before in my life!! Keeping hope alive!!
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Mark Kez Lieutenant Colonel 2202 Rep 1,582 Posts Drives: BMW M4 Convertible Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Syracuse NY iTrader: (0)	Come on gents! I know many of you have been at the port for a few weeks, but the odds are seriously in your favor!! I’m telling you all, I got a feeling!! Keep hope alive!! And if that fails, remember BMW won’t make a dime until we get our cars so what do you think they’re doing right now? Working their butts off to get our cars onto the next boat!! KHA!!
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