Dealership in nyc wants 20k over msrp

in2zion · 03-17-2022, 01:02 PM

I called around NYC dealerships and Freeport dealership wanted 20k over msrp! I am guessing they are getting tons of calls for the M3 xdrive.

I wonder if this is a strategy to scare off people of getting the car. Any recommended dealers near NYC for msrp price point? Thanks in advance.

vj123 · 03-17-2022, 01:06 PM

People are waiting for months for a MSRP allocation and have to wait for another 4-6 months to take delivery.

Someone who is impatient would be willing to pay that markup and drive it off today for a vehicle in stock.

nal13 · 03-17-2022, 01:14 PM

I saw the ad on cars.com. Called and they said the car is available for immediate delivery. I asked what's the catch and they told me 20K over sticker. That was several weeks ago. Lets see how long it sits.

BmwM94 · 03-17-2022, 01:56 PM

Freeport is the worst dealer in ny period.

IcebergM4 · 03-17-2022, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in2zion

I called around NYC dealerships and Freeport dealership wanted 20k over msrp! I am guessing they are getting tons of calls for the M3 xdrive.

I wonder if this is a strategy to scare off people of getting the car. Any recommended dealers near NYC for msrp price point? Thanks in advance.

I've known the business manager there for almost 30 years and even he told me to look for another dealership if I want MSRP or anything remotely close to it, even though I bought my F32 from them in the past. For any G8x model, BMW Freeport refuses to play ball for anything less than $10K above MSRP no matter what.

Well I took his advice and contacted BMW of Columbia and I got MSRP (and even Loyalty), no questions asked, for my G82. Freeport really sucks now to be honest

NightWriter · 03-17-2022, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by in2zion

I wonder if this is a strategy to scare off people of getting the car.

No, it's a strategy to make money by fleecing an impatient customer.

Stanfillr · 03-17-2022, 03:06 PM

There’s one in PA with my exact build. I almost paid 20 over cuz I have ZERO faith my car is stuck in no man’s land. I’m glad I didn’t and you guys talked me out of it.

SpeedyATL · 03-17-2022, 04:19 PM

Do these dealers a solid and remember this is how they acted when the 'ball was in their court'. Don't patronize them for anything except a rock bottom deal once the tide changes.

Sorry, but actions should have consequences in my book. It's their choice to sell the cars for whatever they want, but it's the consumer's choice to remember how they acted and to consider that when choosing to work with them in the future.

I'm definitely a free market guy, but there is more than just dollars and cents to the equation in my book.

astroricardo · 03-17-2022, 04:28 PM

Seems like that's what the market will bear at this point... people asking for 20K over sticker for USED ones.

blinkme323 · 03-17-2022, 06:07 PM

Yep, 20k over sticker for an M4 MT near me. I've been driving M3s since the e46 gen but its time to move on I suppose.

Vishal50028 · 03-17-2022, 07:06 PM

This one has 6k miles and a sticker of 81 when new

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AhsanU · 03-18-2022, 02:02 AM

Contact James Kuziw at Habberstad BMW of Bayshore. It won't be MSRP, but it might be close to it. If you can report back with how much he's asking for over sticker, that'd be great. That way I know whether or not to be sending people his way.

And it isn't exactly NYC (Long Island) but it's fairly close.

Good luck!

geim9000 · 03-18-2022, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by in2zion

I called around NYC dealerships and Freeport dealership wanted 20k over msrp! I am guessing they are getting tons of calls for the M3 xdrive.

I wonder if this is a strategy to scare off people of getting the car. Any recommended dealers near NYC for msrp price point? Thanks in advance.

Hey, I live in NYC, I put a deposit down in mid Feb. it may be stale here's what I found:

BMW M3 xDrive

BMW of Freeport - 10k over (my '19 F82 dealer)
BMW of Springfield - 5k over 
BMW of Freehold - 5k over 
Open Road BMW - 10k over 
Habberstad BMW - 7500 over 

Westchester BMW - 5% markup, but I was able to negotiate an M4 xDrive allocation at MSRP, just because I was curious. Their waitlist was 8 people on the M3.
 
Manhattan BMW - MSRP but 1% more on financing, .004 more on MF lease - but talked them down off the markup on both - I have an order here, 3 or 4 person wait list - contact Isaiah  
BMW of Bayside - MSRP, 8 person wait, I'm on this wait list because they claim they've been getting 3 M3 allocations monthly - call Christian   
Paul Miller BMW - MSRP, 10 person wait

  I called a lot of dealers in our area of NJ/NY, if they're not on this list, it's most likely because they wouldn't say on the phone how much. What I've found though is, if you go in, some of the places charging above MSRP will negotiate lower. Good luck.

in2zion · 03-18-2022, 06:54 AM

Wow! Thank you. The quotes I got were similar to what you got. I didn’t bother calling Bayside or Manhattan because I assumed they wanted markups! I’ll call them today.

I started calling few dealerships in NJ and PA. Paul Miller was on my list to call today lol.

Thank you again!

Quote:

Originally Posted by geim9000

Hey, I live in NYC, I put a deposit down in mid Feb. it may be stale here's what I found:

BMW M3 xDrive

BMW of Freeport - 10k over (my '19 F82 dealer)
BMW of Springfield - 5k over 
BMW of Freehold - 5k over 
Open Road BMW - 10k over 
Habberstad BMW - 7500 over 

Westchester BMW - 5% markup, but I was able to negotiate an M4 xDrive allocation at MSRP, just because I was curious. Their waitlist was 8 people on the M3.
 
Manhattan BMW - MSRP but 1% more on financing, .004 more on MF lease - but talked them down off the markup on both - I have an order here, 3 or 4 person wait list - contact Isaiah  
BMW of Bayside - MSRP, 8 person wait, I'm on this wait list because they claim they've been getting 3 M3 allocations monthly - call Christian   
Paul Miller BMW - MSRP, 10 person wait

  I called a lot of dealers in our area of NJ/NY, if they're not on this list, it's most likely because they wouldn't say on the phone how much. What I've found though is, if you go in, some of the places charging above MSRP will negotiate lower. Good luck.

mjbernatz · 03-18-2022, 06:59 AM

Someone will eventually buy it. They'll negotiate down to $15k over and leave thinking they got a "good deal".

nal13 · 03-18-2022, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by in2zion

Wow! Thank you. The quotes I got were similar to what you got. I didn’t bother calling Bayside or Manhattan because I assumed they wanted markups! I’ll call them today.

I started calling few dealerships in NJ and PA. Paul Miller was on my list to call today lol.

Thank you again!

Quote:

Originally Posted by geim9000

Hey, I live in NYC, I put a deposit down in mid Feb. it may be stale here's what I found:

BMW M3 xDrive

BMW of Freeport - 10k over (my '19 F82 dealer)
BMW of Springfield - 5k over 
BMW of Freehold - 5k over 
Open Road BMW - 10k over 
Habberstad BMW - 7500 over 

Westchester BMW - 5% markup, but I was able to negotiate an M4 xDrive allocation at MSRP, just because I was curious. Their waitlist was 8 people on the M3.
 
Manhattan BMW - MSRP but 1% more on financing, .004 more on MF lease - but talked them down off the markup on both - I have an order here, 3 or 4 person wait list - contact Isaiah  
BMW of Bayside - MSRP, 8 person wait, I'm on this wait list because they claim they've been getting 3 M3 allocations monthly - call Christian   
Paul Miller BMW - MSRP, 10 person wait

  I called a lot of dealers in our area of NJ/NY, if they're not on this list, it's most likely because they wouldn't say on the phone how much. What I've found though is, if you go in, some of the places charging above MSRP will negotiate lower. Good luck.

Try Connecticut. I am on two lists for MSRP. One in Fairfield county and one in Hartford county.

in2zion · 03-18-2022, 07:21 AM

Lol. I didn’t even consider Connecticut! I thought people there love paying over msrp 😂. Thank you! Sorry to hear that UConn lost yesterday!

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Originally Posted by nal13

Try Connecticut. I am on two lists for MSRP. One in Fairfield county and one in Hartford county.

modat · 03-18-2022, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by in2zion

Lol. I didn’t even consider Connecticut! I thought people there love paying over msrp 😂. Thank you! Sorry to hear that UConn lost yesterday!

I have a awesome CA and dealer in CT. PM me if you want their info.

nal13 · 03-18-2022, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by in2zion

Lol. I didn’t even consider Connecticut! I thought people there love paying over msrp 😂. Thank you! Sorry to hear that UConn lost yesterday!

Quote:

Originally Posted by nal13

Try Connecticut. I am on two lists for MSRP. One in Fairfield county and one in Hartford county.

Heartbreaking! Was hoping for a return to our glory days.

But as for Connecticut you have to keep in mind the rich people in Greenwich and Darien like there money way to much and would never pay over sticker. It just goes against there principles. Lol

in2zion · 03-18-2022, 08:37 AM

You guys are awesome! I never been so happy about a waitlist for MSRP LOL. Thank you for all the leads provided on this thread. Once I get on one, I'll let you guys know and share the info.

snareman · 03-18-2022, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by astroricardo

Seems like that's what the market will bear at this point... people asking for 20K over sticker for USED ones.

I've had my car on Autotrader for over a month for just 10k more than I paid and willing to negotiate and I've had zero interest. Although I'm not a 'motivated seller' as I have no idea when my M8 will actually arrive.

barryc365 · 03-18-2022, 11:42 AM

When I was calling around I found Manhattan BMW to be good guys to deal with. I almost bought a car at MSRP from Albany and they would deliver it to NYC no problem. I ended up doing a deal with Competition BMW of Smithtown on Long island. They asked for $5k over but they caved to MSRP very quickly

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