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      09-24-2020, 01:14 PM   #89
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YMB is really pale, dont know how some people like it. This IoMG is on another planet imho.
It's all subjective my brother. I would get every car in YMB for the rest of my life if it was offered. I had hopes (prior to the reveal) for IoMG but found it to be too muted for my taste.
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      09-24-2020, 01:18 PM   #90
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I'm getting numb to the front but it's still too big and heavy.
Weight is concerning to me as well. I was surprised to find out that the G20 M340i weighs close to 4000 lbs too. Didn’t notice the platform had gotten so heavy, I guess there’s only so much M can do about that
Increasing the size certainly didn't help. Did many F80 owners actually complain that the car was too small?

Are they trying to capture more customers with bigger cars? Probably. Are they alienating a small portion of us enthusiasts? Yes. I guess the bottom line is more important.
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      09-24-2020, 01:20 PM   #91
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At this point forget the looks .... RWD weighs 3900lbs!! And awd will be close to 4100LBS for BMW's sportiest model. The death of M is near. What a shame
I would say the M2 (all variants) is BMW's sportiest model. Unfortunately, the M3 is now the size of an M5. I googled the M5 weight, 4300 lbs. The M3 is 300 lbs. lighter for RWD and let's be honest, the same weight in AWD trim. Other than the price difference and the style, I don't know why you would pick a M3 over an M5 with the M5 offering much better performance.
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      09-24-2020, 01:21 PM   #92
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Other than the price difference and the style, I don't know why you would pick a M3 over an M5 with the M5 offering much better performance.
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Let's just hope they don't ruin the next gen M2. This is
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      09-24-2020, 02:03 PM   #94
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I would say the M2 (all variants) is BMW's sportiest model. Unfortunately, the M3 is now the size of an M5. I googled the M5 weight, 4300 lbs. The M3 is 300 lbs. lighter for RWD and let's be honest, the same weight in AWD trim. Other than the price difference and the style, I don't know why you would pick a M3 over an M5 with the M5 offering much better performance.
Other than the price and the way it looks, you don't know why we would choose the M3 over the M5?
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White is not a good look for those grills. Ouch.
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      09-24-2020, 02:48 PM   #96
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The three quarters rear/side view look pretty good actually.
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Ok changed my mind

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      09-24-2020, 03:43 PM   #98
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Looks great in white with the two tone wheels!
I agree. White looks really good.
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Other than the price and the way it looks, you don't know why we would choose the M3 over the M5?
Correct, all previous M3s and M5s competed in different segments, not just price but dimensions and weight. The M3 used to be the one you would take to the track and perform daily duties as it was relatively light weight, while the M5 would be the autobahn cruiser as it was heavier and didn't have the flairs the 3 did.
Let's look at it by generation
E30 weight: 2,568–2,998 lb E28 M5: 3,109
E36 weight: 3,340 (the LW was 3,140) E34 M5: 3,847
E46 weight: 3,461 E39 M5: 3,957
E90 weight: 3,483 F10 M5: 4,387
F80 weight: 3,540 F90 M5: 4,370
G80 weight: 3,9XX to 4,3XX

Again, there has always been a difference in size and weight between the two cars. Now there isn't. That sucks. Now both cars weigh the same but the M5 has a ton more power. Instead of buying a smaller more versatile car, you're now forced to buy a discount M5 that looks odd from most angles. Same size, way less power.
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      09-24-2020, 06:03 PM   #101
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Sao Paulo looks soooo much nicer than Austin Yellow. But it's so bright, definitely takes some guts to own.
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      09-24-2020, 08:16 PM   #103
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Just curious, who among you is actually going to get your G8x in SPY?
Me! If I get one, it'll be a G80 in SPY with 6MT and Yas Marina carbon buckets
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The rear bumper jutting out this much is so weird to me...
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      09-24-2020, 08:39 PM   #105
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The SPY looks kind of like a creamy neon yellow in those pics. Muted neon.
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The rear bumper jutting out this much is so weird to me...
I'm guessing that, along with the black lower bits that they had to take all the way around the car in order to not make the rear bumper look funky are required to hide the new EU-compliant exhaust.
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      09-24-2020, 09:59 PM   #107
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I dug it throughout the dragged out launch process and I dig it even more. White looks legit. I love the creasing on the side.
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Let's just hope they don't ruin the next gen M2. This is
What are the chances that the next gen M2 will weigh 3,800+ pounds? Seriously. They're gonna mess it up right?
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I don't understand why people complain about the weight of the 4WD version when Bmw still offers the possibility to choose the lighter 2WD
Anyway, the AWD system on the M340i weighs around 120 lbs, so the M4 4WD will still be a long way off the weight of the M5, plus there's a huge difference in weight distribution between the two (most of the extra weight from bigger sister is on the front axle due to the engine and the AWD system). And again, the longer wheelbase of the M5 has a big impact on dynamics.
There is still a remarkable difference between the two, especially with the 2WD M3.
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