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Mercedes 56 9.82%
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Audi 42 7.37%
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Chevrolet Corvette C8 53 9.30%
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      07-17-2020, 07:23 AM   #287
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Even we have had hard argue in past,i will answer your poll..

My choice is F82 M4 GTS...i just pulled the trigger.

I can not stand so much new tech and front grill in new G80...simply,i dont like it.

M4 GTS is amazing car,brutal sound,im having so much fun with this car...im feel like im 17 again..cant wait to drive it.
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Looks great. Congrats.
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      07-17-2020, 10:07 AM   #289
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Looks great. Congrats.
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My plan is to do what I did when the F8x came out, which is to stick with my e92. I honestly don't care how the G8x drives or how bad it'll smoke my e92, it's just too damn cartoonish and hideous to even consider.

If/when I replace mine, I'll likely go with a more focused sports car like a 911 or C8 Z06. I've got an f10 5er as a daily until my Cybertruck gets built a couple of years from now (which is also cartoonish and ugly, but in a good way).
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We could afford a brand new entry level P-Car with no options for the price of a fully loaded M3 purchased at MSRP. Add options, and that P-Car ventures into territory well beyond what we paid for our M3/M4's.
I can afford both but I am highly aligned with BMW for a few reasons; 1) iDrive (Porsche infotainment system just does not look good to me), 2) other tech (Car Key, head up display, etc.), 3) general comfort (less road noise etc).

I get it that the 911 is a better driver but overall I think the M3/4 would make me happier hence why the 911 would need to be a third car (not giving up the F80). I'm one of the minorities who thinks the G8x is shaping up well so I'm pretty sure I will be getting a G82 on top of our current F80 but if the tides turn and for some reason I don't like the G8x then yes, will def be going 911 since I'm not sure what other car speaks to me the way these two do. Maybe RS6 but I need to test drive that car first and it seems like that is out of the question since no dealer seems to have it.

Everyone's thought process is diff and some peoples' situations/concerns/idiosyncrasies may not be intelligible to us
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Even we have had hard argue in past,i will answer your poll..

My choice is F82 M4 GTS...i just pulled the trigger.

I can not stand so much new tech and front grill in new G80...simply,i dont like it.

M4 GTS is amazing car,brutal sound,im having so much fun with this car...im feel like im 17 again..cant wait to drive it.
Congrats on the GTS. Is yours spec'd with the carbon fiber wheels?
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      07-20-2020, 09:59 AM   #293
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Even we have had hard argue in past,i will answer your poll..

My choice is F82 M4 GTS...i just pulled the trigger.

I can not stand so much new tech and front grill in new G80...simply,i dont like it.

M4 GTS is amazing car,brutal sound,im having so much fun with this car...im feel like im 17 again..cant wait to drive it.
Congrats! 🍾
I'm having a haaaaaard time deciding between M4 Gts & C8 convertible or C8 Z06!
M4 GTS is the most beautiful BMW car ever imo!
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Get a 991.2 Carrera 4S with a manual. Plenty of power and tuning potential to get you to turbo levels at a price point close to a new G82 M4.
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      07-22-2020, 03:03 PM   #295
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Get a 991.2 Carrera 4S with a manual. Plenty of power and tuning potential to get you to turbo levels at a price point close to a new G82 M4.
It might be difficult to get a decent 991.2 4S under $100k unless you go a non-certified 1st year 2017 model with higher than average mileage.

That might be a more expensive and risky proposition with the warranty almost up (given the 991 2 water pump issues, etc.) than the price of a new G8x.

Great cars, just the potential extra $ might have to be factored in.
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It might be difficult to get a decent 991.2 4S under $100k unless you go a non-certified 1st year 2017 model with higher than average mileage.

That might be a more expensive and risky proposition with the warranty almost up (given the 991 2 water pump issues, etc.) than the price of a new G8x.

Great cars, just the potential extra $ might have to be factored in.

This is correct. While 991.2 is clearly superior the price points are apples to baseballs.
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This is correct. While 991.2 is clearly superior the price points are apples to baseballs.
Very true. As many know or may not, I'm on my 2nd water pump on mine in 6,000 miles (bought it new last year so under warranty). Small part, huge repair.
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Voted Audi, not sure that will be my choice but it's the leaning. Audi has nice looks, better dash (traditional or virtual). My hesitation is Audi quality, which isn't up to bmw. Other options is G30 5 series. Or maybe I will come around to the G80
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Very true. As many know or may not, I'm on my 2nd water pump on mine in 6,000 miles (bought it new last year so under warranty). Small part, huge repair.
I had a good chuckle at the "Re-assembled vehicle" part. That does seem like a nightmare out of warranty repair especially these days with the failure rates of electric water pumps on a lot of vehicles as it's been going on with VAG products for almost a decade now as I and everyone I knew with Golf R's had our water pumps replaced once or twice under warranty.
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      07-24-2020, 08:58 AM   #300
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Pretty sure the lack of ED (I was lucky enough to do it in April 2015 on my F80) is my final straw with BMW snubbing the enthusiast.

I think my alternative ride will be a C43 AMG - I am a one car guy in NY and appreciate the AWD. After the F80 I've actually had 2 Audi S4s in manual and DSG, the former stage 1 and the latter stage 2.

I always shied away from Mercedes because they offered the most "comfort forward" driving dynamic. . . Now with the 9 speed wet clutch gearbox they actually have the most lively and interesting of the automatic transmissions. . . Who would have thought!

A quick tune on the C43 will make a worthy contender, and the AMG performance exhaust makes it sound leaps and bounds better than the F80 right out of the box. Plus the white Designo interior is pure sex.

My one gripe is the exterior colors are boring. . . Give me SO any day.

I previously had a C43 AMG and found it stiffer and more uncomfortable than my E90 M3 and not even close in comfort to my B8 or B9 S4. If you value comfort, stay away from the Performance seats. I did have the brown Designo which always garnered comments and was beautiful.
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The car just looks boring. Horrible front end and Infiniti side profile. I've been driving BMW's the last 25 years and last 4 cars have been M's. I'm going with a C63 in March when my lease is up, and it pains me.
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The car just looks boring. Horrible front end and Infiniti side profile. I've been driving BMW's the last 25 years and last 4 cars have been M's. I'm going with a C63 in March when my lease is up, and it pains me.
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The car just looks boring. Horrible front end and Infiniti side profile. I've been driving BMW's the last 25 years and last 4 cars have been M's. I'm going with a C63 in March when my lease is up, and it pains me.
Not a bad decision. V8 engine.
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Not a bad decision. V8 engine.
Like this. If you are going to have two turbos, it's nice to be able to see them.
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Like this. If you are going to have two turbos, it's nice to be able to see them.
These cars are so dead I'm sorry... nice looking machine but when it comes to real world performance... not the on paper bullshit... it cannot compete with the M cars period!

All the bright lights and having a 70" screen in the cars is cool and all but I have a home with a large tv so I'll pass ��
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These cars are so dead I'm sorry... nice looking machine but when it comes to real world performance... not the on paper bullshit... it cannot compete with the M cars period!

All the bright lights and having a 70" screen in the cars is cool and all but I have a home with a large tv so I'll pass ��
Not mine Amigo. Mines a pre-LCI. Plus I also have an M3 comp in the family and one isn't better than the other, they are just different. The 700Nm of torque for starters Vs the lighter weight of the M3. Funny that the new M3/4 will have 510PS, now where have I come across that figure before??��

If you don't think a C63S competes with an M3 Comp, you need to drive one for a week. You may not prefer it to an M car, but it will open your eyes and your mind.
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Not mine Amigo. Mines a pre-LCI. Plus I also have an M3 comp in the family and one isn't better than the other, they are just different. The 700Nm of torque for starters Vs the lighter weight of the M3. Funny that the new M3/4 will have 510PS, now where have I come across that figure before??��
Yet to see one that's impressive.. sounds great and looks great but once again performance wise no bueno imo..

Remember... anything's fast by itself.
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Yet to see one that's impressive.. sounds great and looks great but once again performance wise no bueno imo..

Remember... anything's fast by itself.
I often drove them back to back, so speak from experience. If you want to ignore me, I won't lose any sleep over it.

The car that is inferior to them both is the RS4.

It's got the best hidden 450PS ever and feels very soft to drive. Obviously that will suit some people.
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