G80 M3 CS powertrain & production info: 540hp, automatic, xDrive, 3/2023 production

ynguldyn · 03-22-2022, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ccrinoz

My dealer is still quite confident that there will be a m4 cs. He has 6 people on a list for m4 csl

Dealers are the last people to learn about new model releases.

Telling the people at my local BMW dealership about the cars they should expect 1-2 years out used to be (when I still owned BMWs) one of the best parts of this hobby.

gnx · 03-22-2022, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Dealers are the last people to learn about new model releases.

...(when I still owned BMWs) one of the best parts of this hobby.

Tempted to ask whatever happened for you not to own any of them anymore.

ynguldyn · 03-22-2022, 01:48 AM

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Tempted to ask whatever happened for you not to own any of them anymore.

Me: E39T -> E70 -> F31 -> Model 3
Wife: E36 -> E82 -> 718 Cayman S

M3EATERS · 03-22-2022, 03:22 AM

Just cant believe bmw havent released this or the m4cs during the 50 year m anniversary. With the knowledge the csl will be.
Cmon marketing!

Sporck · 03-22-2022, 03:50 AM

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540 HP might see 2.7-2.8 sec 0-60 times

I strongly doubt if the CS only gets RWD. Is Xdrive confirmed?

PLF69 · 03-22-2022, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sporck

I strongly doubt if the CS only gets RWD. Is Xdrive confirmed?

Title of thread

PLF69 · 03-22-2022, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FinalV8

400 lbs less, similar power. Btw love my 22 g80 xDrive, it's mega….just now want a more toss-able go-cart like

I totally get it as I got bored pretty fast with my DCT M2 vs my friends who still own there 6MT's.

400lbs ! That's a lot, what are the real world weights on AWD M3 ? The M240i isn't very light..

F87EVO · 03-22-2022, 05:39 AM

It does make sense , however its interesting to see their approach !

MadBimmeRad · 03-22-2022, 06:37 AM

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My dealer has 6 people on a list for m4 csl

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Are you serious? In Australia? In one dealership?

FMB

There are only 20 coming here

Jaw dropped o'rite

EthanEJC · 03-22-2022, 07:18 AM

idrive 8 seems like a downgrade cause of the direction of the latest idrive it doesn't make sense in a M car.

Would love a CS though just would be better with ID7.

CCUSACKM3 · 03-22-2022, 07:32 AM

this might get me out of my F80, passed up on a M2 CS at 2500 over sticker (which I regret) if I can get one of these for MSRP (or very close) I will not pass.

ccrinoz · 03-22-2022, 07:39 AM

That was sunny coast BMW
Brisbane BMW have 5 on the waiting list probably more now

Are you serious? In Australia? In one dealership?

FMB

There are only 20 coming here

Jaw dropped o'rite[/QUOTE]

ccrinoz · 03-22-2022, 07:42 AM

Is there a m4 cs being released, I hope so I am first in line at the dealership

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Originally Posted by M3EATERS

Just cant believe bmw havent released this or the m4cs during the 50 year m anniversary. With the knowledge the csl will be.
Cmon marketing!

SteveChester · 03-22-2022, 08:06 AM

Any idea of price premium for CS over Comp model?

Mako · 03-22-2022, 08:31 AM

M5 CS cut 200 lbs while still having AWD and automatic, so maybe M3 can do it as well. No reason to buy this unless it does, otherwise save $25,000 and just get a simple tune on the M3 comp.

Amazing how market conditions have changed things, 3 years ago this version would go for a heavy discount, now I am guessing dealers will want $10k over msrp which could put it at M5 CS msrp.

Chicane_ · 03-22-2022, 08:33 AM

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I understand the comment, eager to see the difference in driving dynamics.

I understand the "rarity" of the CSL but it doesn not mean much to me, I am buying these cars to drive them !

From what I understand, the M3 CS will probably follow in the footsteps of the M5 CS, with bucket seats in the back, decent lightening efforts, and a bit of extra power. It seems the M4 CSL will go the extra mile with rear seat deletion, more radical lightening strategies, and a roll cage in allowable markets. The M4 GT/H will be a CSL with stock M4 drivetrain, since BMW engineers seem to be firmly planted at that 400lb-ft limit for the GS6-45BZ transmission. A shame the GT/H won't be available in the US, since we're the biggest market for archaic technology

The M4 GTS was sold in the US/Canadian markets with roll bars so I assume the CSL will as well…. unless the laws have changed since then?

What laws? You can get a GT3 without rollbars and no back seats. That was just BMW's decision to put in rollbars to avoid liability.

No idea. All I know is that I was able to order a titanium harness bar for my 675LT in Canada but it was unavailable in the US which makes me think there's something unique to US crash and safety standards.

ROBERT1183 · 03-22-2022, 08:38 AM

G8X buyers seem more eager to spend then F8x buyers. I see way more highly optioned G8X builds north of $85k. Alot more individual cars as well than previous generations in my opinion. I think a CS at 100-110k will do better than the last one. Now if they creep higher into the $120-130k range might be a different story.

TheStanman · 03-22-2022, 09:35 AM

Last thing the G8X needs is more power, but I'm excited to see how they improve chassis dynamics and steering feel. CS models seem to be where BMW brings back their old engineering magic.

Straight6Dave · 03-22-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ROBERT1183

G8X buyers seem more eager to spend then F8x buyers. I see way more highly optioned G8X builds north of $85k. Alot more individual cars as well than previous generations in my opinion. I think a CS at 100-110k will do better than the last one. Now if they creep higher into the $120-130k range might be a different story.

You might be right but $100k puts it in new 911 (if you can get one) category.

CCUSACKM3 · 03-22-2022, 09:43 AM

Just got a call from the dealer I purchased my F80 from, I sent an email to the sales manager I dealt expressing my interest in the CS and asking for him to put down my info and call if one comes available. His first question is how much will I pay over MSRP?

ROBERT1183 · 03-22-2022, 09:43 AM

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You might be right but $100k puts it in new 911 (if you can get one) category.

yeah precovid that 110-130k range was preowned 991.1 GT3 money.

kyleb350 · 03-22-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Dealers are the last people to learn about new model releases.

Telling the people at my local BMW dealership about the cars they should expect 1-2 years out used to be (when I still owned BMWs) one of the best parts of this hobby.

"Here is what's coming out, and here's my down payment"

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