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      04-18-2022, 12:13 AM   #1
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This is the same car as in this thread but now 4.5 months on, we have:
- better sunlight and weather for photos in Seattle, so a more representative set of Enzian Blue photos.
- the 963M summer wheel + tire set on. This and all the post-factory changes in between has started to make it feel enough like a different, more "complete" car to me and inspired splitting out a new thread.
- custom plates, finally! Washington state was backed up on custom plate production due to the pandemic and it took about 4 months to get mine.
- miscellaneous carbon fiber parts (beyond VPC installed parts), and PPF on everything (as in the older thread). The windshield also has Stek Dynoflex and I'm sure it's prevented a bunch of chips and cracks already. For comparison, my exactly 1-year old X5 has had 2 trips to Safelite to fill in large cracks (3 to 7 mm in diameter).
- front & rear 24x7 Blackvue dashcams, Valentine V1 Gen 2 blend-mounted, M Performance floor mats, carbon fiber seat back tops (Autotechnic), BMW carbon fiber slim-line license plate frame, Weathertech trunk mat with ///M logo 'overwrite'

To focus on the wheels, these are the lightest wheels that BMW makes shaving off a whole 3.5 kg of unsprung mass off the 826Ms according to this page:
"How much does the lightest wheel weigh and which one of the range is actually the lightest?
Kristian: The lightest OEM wheels are the 963M weighing in 9,9 kg for the 19" (front) and 10,9 kg for the 20" rims (rear). So these 4 rims are approximately 3,5kg lighter compared to a 826M car set."


How much do they cost?
They are listed on ShopBMWUSA with the Michelin PS4S tires (mounted and balanced) for $6,420 before tax. When I saw them listed on a local dealer's version of that site for $5,578 in the middle of winter, I just jumped on them, and they'd been in storage since.

How do they feel?
They feel great. I can't say I'm sensitive enough to notice 3.5 kg+ of reduced unsprung mass, but there is some intangible overall goodness in how the car handles with the wheels and tires together. A good part of it is from switching from winter to summer (sidewall is stiffer so there's less flex, and corresponding body sway/rebound, felt in cornering). The tires contribute somewhat to road noise though.

Avoid, consider or buy 963Ms with summer around the corner?
There are better ways to spend what they cost, but if you are going to have a separate wheel and tire set for summer/winter anyway, the additional cost for these (considering the cost of tires too in that equation) may not be that large. If you must have the best possible wheels for (incremental) performance, then absolutely, buy. They do look good too as the following photos will show. My personal perspective on these wheels for where I live is that they'd be great in summer but may be a bit too dark for overcast winter days, so my switch back to 825Ms for winter feel like a good balance.

More photos?
I post rarely to social media but I did want to provide dedicated content for fellow enthusiasts (dissociated from my personal profile):
https://www.instagram.com/enzianblue_g82/

Voodoo Blue, Mexico Blue, Enzian Blue, Santorini Blue, Maritime Blue?
Going an Individual blue in this tone, but can't tell them apart? Here are some other member-posted pics:
Voodoo | Mexico | Enzian | Santorini | Maritime Blue

Still confused? Owners can barely tell the difference because these colors are so rare that you'll just about never even run into a variant in your area to do a side-by-side comparison. Suitably specced, you'll end up with a 1 of 1 in the world. You can't go wrong with any of these blues, or indeed, with most of the unique colors in the BMW Individual palette.

Also snareman has real-life painted samples for sale if you want to see these in real life and various lighting conditions to make up your mind.
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Looking good!

Any plans to do the front/rear reflector delete?
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Im blue with envy --- that color is amazing
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looks sharp. that color really looks great on the M4. reminds me a lot of Santorini
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Looking good!

Any plans to do the front/rear reflector delete?
My wife thinks I spend too much time with the car that can be better spent taking more care of our baby. So even tiny projects like that would have to be pushed out - I've added it to my cart at IND a couple of times but then walked away. Maybe soon when I'm on parental leave.

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Im blue with envy --- that color is amazing
Hahaha… you can fix that quite easily with a sixth car in your already beyond-impressive stable. It would have been awesome if a lot of Individual car owners lived close to each other - videos and photos of a Individual car chain going down the road would be amazing.

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looks sharp. that color really looks great on the M4. reminds me a lot of Santorini
Thanks! Just contributing to the eye candy available here. snareman started it with his Enzian G82. And yeah, there are a couple of individual blues that are so close together that almost no one can say for sure what they are looking at in photos.
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Just need the reflector deletes to accentuate the front end. This special color would benefit from the delete because the orange is just a distraction.
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Looks fantastic!

Love my 963Ms, they're a work of art and never get bored looking at them.
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Just need the reflector deletes to accentuate the front end. This special color would benefit from the delete because the orange is just a distraction.
That does it. I'm ordering. @chicagofan00, did you just order yours and email IND immediately to tell them what your individual color actually was (vs. what you selected in the list)? Or did you just email IND first?

Also can you install it by turning the wheels inwards vs. removing?

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Looks fantastic!

Love my 963Ms, they're a work of art and never get bored looking at them.
They are definitely works of art.
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Just need the reflector deletes to accentuate the front end. This special color would benefit from the delete because the orange is just a distraction.
That does it. I'm ordering. @chicagofan00, did you just order yours and email IND immediately to tell them what your individual color actually was (vs. what you selected in the list)? Or did you just email IND first?

Also can you install it by turning the wheels inwards vs. removing?

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Looks fantastic!

Love my 963Ms, they're a work of art and never get bored looking at them.
They are definitely works of art.
I work with Ryan at IND directly so I'll usually just shoot him an email of what I'm looking to purchase.

Just send an email over to info@ind-distribution.com and they'll get you squared away.

They are easy to install. I didn't even turn the wheels during the process, but you would get a bit more space to work with by turning the wheel.
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Wow this is so god damn sexy. Between these wheels and the 1000M BMW knocked it out the park
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Wow. These pics really showcase the color. I don't think I have liked it in a lot of other threads. This is definitely a looker.

And +3 on the reflectors. You can knock those out while baby naps.
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Great car OP!

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And +3 on the reflectors. You can knock those out while baby naps.
I had a slightly different approach... I painted my calipers matching orange
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And +3 on the reflectors. You can knock those out while baby naps.
I had a slightly different approach... I painted my calipers matching orange
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Wow. These pics really showcase the color. I don't think I have liked it in a lot of other threads. This is definitely a looker.

And +3 on the reflectors. You can knock those out while baby naps.
Order placed.. IND will ship them out soon.
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Looking good!

Any plans to do the front/rear reflector delete?
My wife thinks I spend too much time with the car that can be better spent taking more care of our baby. So even tiny projects like that would have to be pushed out - I've added it to my cart at IND a couple of times but then walked away. Maybe soon when I'm on parental leave.

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Hahaha… you can fix that quite easily with a sixth car in your already beyond-impressive stable. It would have been awesome if a lot of Individual car owners lived close to each other - videos and photos of a Individual car chain going down the road would be amazing.

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looks sharp. that color really looks great on the M4. reminds me a lot of Santorini
Thanks! Just contributing to the eye candy available here. snareman started it with his Enzian G82. And yeah, there are a couple of individual blues that are so close together that almost no one can say for sure what they are looking at in photos.
Pop them out and have them painted by a professional. You'll save money that way, and I'm sure your wife will appreciate that.
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This looks awesome man.

i want m performance wheels 😭😭
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This is the same car as in this thread but now 4.5 months on, we have:
- better sunlight and weather for photos in Seattle, so a more representative set of Enzian Blue photos.
- the 963M summer wheel + tire set on. This and all the post-factory changes in between has started to make it feel enough like a different, more "complete" car to me and inspired splitting out a new thread.
- custom plates, finally! Washington state was backed up on custom plate production due to the pandemic and it took about 4 months to get mine.
- miscellaneous carbon fiber parts (beyond VPC installed parts), and PPF on everything (as in the older thread). The windshield also has Stek Dynoflex and I'm sure it's prevented a bunch of chips and cracks already. For comparison, my exactly 1-year old X5 has had 2 trips to Safelite to fill in large cracks (3 to 7 mm in diameter).
- front & rear 24x7 Blackvue dashcams, Valentine V1 Gen 2 blend-mounted, M Performance floor mats, carbon fiber seat back tops (Autotechnic), BMW carbon fiber slim-line license plate frame, Weathertech trunk mat with ///M logo 'overwrite'

To focus on the wheels, these are the lightest wheels that BMW makes shaving off a whole 3.5 kg of unsprung mass off the 826Ms according to this page:
"How much does the lightest wheel weigh and which one of the range is actually the lightest?
Kristian: The lightest OEM wheels are the 963M weighing in 9,9 kg for the 19" (front) and 10,9 kg for the 20" rims (rear). So these 4 rims are approximately 3,5kg lighter compared to a 826M car set."


How much do they cost?
They are listed on ShopBMWUSA with the Michelin PS4S tires (mounted and balanced) for $6,420 before tax. When I saw them listed on a local dealer's version of that site for $5,578 in the middle of winter, I just jumped on them, and they'd been in storage since.

How do they feel?
They feel great. I can't say I'm sensitive enough to notice 3.5 kg+ of reduced unsprung mass, but there is some intangible overall goodness in how the car handles with the wheels and tires together. A good part of it is from switching from winter to summer (sidewall is stiffer so there's less flex, and corresponding body sway/rebound, felt in cornering). The tires contribute somewhat to road noise though.

Avoid, consider or buy 963Ms with summer around the corner?
There are better ways to spend what they cost, but if you are going to have a separate wheel and tire set for summer/winter anyway, the additional cost for these (considering the cost of tires too in that equation) may not be that large. If you must have the best possible wheels for (incremental) performance, then absolutely, buy. They do look good too as the following photos will show. My personal perspective on these wheels for where I live is that they'd be great in summer but may be a bit too dark for overcast winter days, so my switch back to 825Ms for winter feel like a good balance.

More photos?
I post rarely to social media but I did want to provide dedicated content for fellow enthusiasts (dissociated from my personal profile):
https://www.instagram.com/enzianblue_g82/

Voodoo Blue, Mexico Blue, Enzian Blue, Santorini Blue?
Going an Individual blue in this tone, but can't tell them apart? Here are some other member-posted pics:
Voodoo | Mexico | Enzian | Santorini

Still confused? Owners can barely tell the difference because these colors are so rare that you'll just about never even run into a variant in your area to do a side-by-side comparison. Suitably specced, you'll end up with a 1 of 1 in the world. You can't go wrong with any of these blues, or indeed, with most of the unique colors in the BMW Individual palette.

Also snareman has real-life painted samples for sale if you want to see these in real life and various lighting conditions to make up your mind.

Car looks very heavy with these wheels on, reminds me of a cayenne on wheels that are too small.


Color is amazing, I love it on a 911, makes it very special.
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Totally agree I have similar M perf wheels on my M8 and the carbon ceramics and titanium bolts. Total of around 17lb per corner weight reduction and it is huge in how it impacts handling and steering feel and ride. Nice move!

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