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Yes you can "get by" in nearly all conditions in RWD but you can't maintain road dominance in all conditions, including the wet. An AWD M3 will be similarly driveable and dominate in all conditions, not just dry roads.
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04-04-2021, 10:42 PM | #157 | |
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Now as for "dominating" in all conditions, no, no RWD cars are going to dominate when the conditions aren't dry. But, are people really out their trying to prove how much faster their cars are than others in the rain, sleet and snow? |
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I have a truck and a Macan that are much better suited for snowy and wet conditions but I'd much rather drive my RWD M2C. Aside from ground clearance on the worse of days, I get a kick out of driving it with MDM or DSC off and feeding the throttle. Might as well make the best out of shitty weather.
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04-05-2021, 01:54 AM | #160 |
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RWD for me. Although I live in a temperate climate, I don't see the need to add xdrive, it does not increase my enjoyment of the car, quite the contrary and with proper winter tires it is driveable in all conditions. I'm not going for spirited drives in snow or sleet.
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Just curious as to the reason why many want the Awd in warm weather states like FL. I get the launch improvement/traction but other than that?
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So for them, nothing less than AWD will do, for improved traction in all circumstances and conditions. For me, all I need is a good traction control with my RWD platform and I'm good. I don't plan on ever having to travel through ice and snow in my M. And in the rain, today's current traction control systems are exceptional in most performance cars, so much so that you can floor the throttle and they'll still maintain stability in the wet. |
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RWD but only because I would only buy it with a manual... if both had a manual option, it would be a toss up but I'd probably go with AWD since I live in Minnesnowta
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I look at it like this.... remembering first that Mxdrive isn't a bolt on get me home in the snow haldex system it is a sophisticated traction enhancement tool with electronic diffs center and rear that is so deeply integrated into the traction management system it essentially is the traction management system
Pros: -awd will be faster off the line -awd will be better in inclement weather -awd will likely deliver faster laptimes on the majority of racetracks (maybe all tracks) Cons: -awd will not have the same traditional feel as rwd, -awd will be slightly slower in a high speed rolling race due to more rotating mass Considering that no ones paychecks are on line for laptimes in a stock M3, when purchasing it comes down to what factor drives personal enjoyment on the track or favorite backroad Personally, rwd feel isn't high on my priority list, I like the more "artificial" feel of an awd car shifting power forward to maximize traction. so I will easily take the faster car that has as a side benefit better all weather performance. That said, I don't think AWD is a "better" choice. For those who love rwd feel, nothing can replace it and rwd with proper tires is obviously capable of managing inclement conditions |
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I know this isn't true for the F9X but the F9X also doesn't have the M Drive Professional option. Wondering if you go into RWD (having to turn DSC off) will the system allow you to use the 10-level TC in RWD mode if you tick that option. |
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04-07-2021, 08:28 AM | #167 |
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I'm here in San Diego where I never see snow and rain only 3 months of the year and it's just a couple inches of that when it does. Nothing like a RWD car. I had the F90 and dumped it for the G80. Faster than hell but so disconnected and numb to drive .. that's what I'm worried about the AWD M3. Plus I have the wife's X7 if we do go up to the snow.
As I was driving yesterday I thought to myself .. when the hell has a company ever thrown out a 450whp 6speed manual lol this thing is nuts and so fun to drive. There's nothing like getting a little squirrelly with a RWD 🤪 |
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From age 17 to 34 I had an Audi A4 (first car), S4, RS4, S4, and (you guessed it) an S4.
When Audi discontinued the 6MT I made the jump to an F80 at 34 years old....I only wished I had moved sooner. I've been driving for 22 years. The first 17 years I drove quattro cars exclusively. RWD is infinitely more fun and with snow tires, I get from point A to point B safe and sound. I am an avid skiier and never consider the fact that my car is RWD when taking it to Maine in the winter. Don't make the weather argument, it holds no water (pun intended).
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They are performance cars just as the M3 and they have AWD mainly as a performance upgrade. The same is true for the M3, it’s not getting AWD mainly to be a better winter car, it is getting it as a performance upgrade. To limit its appeal to areas with snow is missing out on the point with AWD in this type of car. The snow traction is just an added bonus.
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Any leaks or additional details about AWD? I'm dying to find out how much quicker it is, how much weight it adds, and how much they're going to charge for it?
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AWD will get you in and out of traffic quickly and it's going to be a monster when it comes out.. I'd wait . I have an X3MC and love it . I can basically launch on 90 percent of the cars on the rode and it's awesome. Can't wait to see the same engine in a lighter car.. |
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Dealer got back to me today and still no news. He'll notify my the second he knows as I'm first in line so I'll report back when he does - I've authorized calling me at literally any time day or night lol
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