[masab321]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Don’t buy a Tesla.

Signed, a two time Tesla owner.

And this is the reason I wrote this post. While test driving a Tesla, I did not felt that excitement and thrill other than an instant torque go-kart acceleration.

[Pool Shark]

I'll add by saying that your driving needs may dictate whether it makes sense to get an EV or not. My wife has a long distance commute (90+ miles/day), so the switch to EV has a big impact on our monthly fuel spend. Of course, now with my M3 needing premium, we'll see how that plays out.

On the real, the M3 will be my weekend car, so the fuel cost will really be negligible.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by masab321

And this is the reason I wrote this post. While test driving a Tesla, I did not felt that excitement and thrill other than an instant torque go-kart acceleration.

You can’t appreciate the benefits on a test drive. The silent operation, always being charged from home, the instant response, zipping through traffic, quick steering and low COG grow on you more over time.

What also grows are the poor materials quality (not necessarily build), the frustrating customer service, software that removes as many features as it adds, dealing with the whims of Elon and putting up with the Tesla fanatics.

If you want an EV, lease an iX.

[ipilcher]

I can't believe no one has said this.

The only correct answer is obviously another G80/G82!

[wavyyyy]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

You can’t appreciate the benefits on a test drive. The silent operation, always being charged from home, the instant response, zipping through traffic, quick steering and low COG grow on you more over time.

What also grows are the poor materials quality (not necessarily build), the frustrating customer service, software that removes as many features as it adds, dealing with the whims of Elon and putting up with the Tesla fanatics.

If you want an EV, lease an iX.

With regards to the first half of this, it’s why I’ve realized I actually love an EV as a DD. I recently signed a short term lease on a Polestar 2 and while I don’t appreciate the ergonomics in the car, the EV life is great. I’d say always being charged from home is really awesome.

[yousefnjr]

+1 for some sort of SUV. Sure you could probably get by with the M3/4, you could also probably eat a steak with a spoon. Things are just easier with the extra space.

When my twins were born I was doing Costco runs for diapers & formula in my Z4M. I can sympathize. Also, congrats on the kiddo

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

+1 for some sort of SUV. Sure you could probably get by with the M3/4, you could also probably eat a steak with a spoon. Things are just easier with the extra space.

When my twins were born I was doing Costco runs for diapers & formula in my Z4M. I can sympathize. Also, congrats on the kiddo

I have two boys and have never owned an SUV and never once thought I needed one. Most of the car based crossovers don't really have any more space either.

[npcars]

M4Cx on my side and ‘23 X3 M40 on hers.

I love my M4, but I also love that X3! Plenty of power, good on gas (my wife drives about 1k miles/month), roomy interior, and reliable BMW tech. Easy choice for us.

(Oh, and we have 1 kiddo)

[wtwo3]

Our X7 is the family hauler. We don't NEED the extra room that it offers, but it's top of the line in terms of comfort and luxury from BMW (excluding new 7 series), and also doesn't suck to drive.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by wavyyyy

With regards to the first half of this, it’s why I’ve realized I actually love an EV as a DD. I recently signed a short term lease on a Polestar 2 and while I don’t appreciate the ergonomics in the car, the EV life is great. I’d say always being charged from home is really awesome.

Yes, if you're not having to rely on the public fast charging network, it's fantastic.

I'd have had a Polestar 2 but couldn't get over the interior size. Not big enough for us.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

The M3 Is the perfect family car. You don't need an SUV because you popped one kid out.

I dunno man, having a large AWD SUV is so convenient when you are hauling camping gear, snow gear, luggage for a 2 week road trip etc. There is now way to fit a tent, cooler, sleeping bags, chairs, clothes and food in the trunk of a M3. The M3 would never make it over some of the terrain we've taken to get to a campsite.

We love packing in our kid's friends and cousins for outings. There are so many great memories being in our 3 row SUV.

[nosbocaj]

Depends on how big your family is. My wife and I just have one kid with no plans for others. We also have two large dogs who love to get wet/muddy/sandy/etc. Factoring everything in, our perfect second car is a Toyota Tacoma extended cab with a canopy top. We can go pretty much anywhere on any surface, with the kid and dogs, and don't have to worry about them dirtying up the inside of the car.

[TK3pedal]

Lots of good options proposed here. I'll throw in the Audi SQ5. My wife loves hers. Same chassis as the Macan but more for the money. But, the Macan transmission is better. X3 is also a great choice. Note that the Q5 and X3s are both due for a significant update this coming year.

[HiFi]

Macan GTS and Manual M3 is a great combo imo. Both performance cars in their own right, and Macan with air suspension is great for highway cruising

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I have two boys and have never owned an SUV and never once thought I needed one. Most of the car based crossovers don't really have any more space either.

Yeah like I said you can make it work. I was able to squeeze the wife and kids into the M4 for a 5 night trip last summer during Car Week. Couldn’t fit our skateboards and parking on the dirt/grass at all the different shows sucked, but we got around (with a few scrapes…). Couldn’t bring my dog either

May not be necessary for most but a 3rd row can come in clutch. Wife uses it a lot for carpooling kids to/from sports, apparently somebody always needs a ride when you’re able to. Maybe better to not have it in that case lol

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Our X7 is the family hauler. We don't NEED the extra room that it offers, but it's top of the line in terms of comfort and luxury from BMW (excluding new 7 series), and also doesn't suck to drive.

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Can confirm this is a sweet, sweet pair

[Skyscraper]

The best is not a car; it’s a truck. Crew Cab F150 Platinum.

Seats 5, Full Leather, all the bells and whistles. Tows a boat, makes Home Depot runs, gets you to the slopes, it does it all.

[08-335xi]

Originally Posted by Skyscraper

The best is not a car; it’s a truck. Crew Cab F150 Platinum.

Seats 5, Full Leather, all the bells and whistles. Tows a boat, makes Home Depot runs, gets you to the slopes, it does it all.

If you have a family with 3 kids a crew cab truck is awesome. We had a F150 crew cab and the back seat is wide enough that even teenagers do not bump elbows much. Our kids loved it on longer trips. We had a truck in the family for about 10 years until the majority of them went off to college and we didn’t need consistent room for five or the kids wanted to drive on vacations in a second car.
The main downside of trucks is the ride, loose handling and fuel consumption. The F150 we had was the V6 TT with 10 speed AT and was plenty fast enough to be entertaining. A hard tonneau cover keeps the truck bed contents dry. The seats in that vehicle were actually cooled (not just ventilated) and were glorious on hot summer days. We have great memories in that vehicle, but now that we have fewer passengers our X3 M40 is substantially more fun to drive. I wish BMW would figure out that real cooled seats are an option most US buyers would pay for.

[ChrisM4]

My ‘24 G82 M4 is my daily year round and my wife’s is a ‘22 X7.

We have a gaggle of kiddos though and two dogs, plus tow frequently and cart around extra people so the X7 is the right size for us.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Yeah like I said you can make it work. I was able to squeeze the wife and kids into the M4 for a 5 night trip last summer during Car Week. Couldn’t fit our skateboards and parking on the dirt/grass at all the different shows sucked, but we got around (with a few scrapes…). Couldn’t bring my dog either

May not be necessary for most but a 3rd row can come in clutch. Wife uses it a lot for carpooling kids to/from sports, apparently somebody always needs a ride when you’re able to. Maybe better to not have it in that case lol

Yeah fair. I took the kids out to BC this summer. Threw it all in the back and off we went. Kids don't need as much crap as parents think they do. I guess I don't live like most Americans with all their excessive shit and insane spacial needs.

[/ / / M3]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

+1 for some sort of SUV. Sure you could probably get by with the M3/4, you could also probably eat a steak with a spoon. Things are just easier with the extra space.

I wonder what people did 30+ years go (before SUV's became commonplace).

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by / / / M3

I wonder what people did 30+ years go (before SUV's became commonplace).

They drove The Wagon Queen Family Truckster