08-25-2020, 09:46 AM | #111 |
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3.5 for RWD 6mt is good enough for me... I wonder with the new e-clutch tech there will be a legitimate launch control for the 6mt base cars.
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08-25-2020, 10:38 AM | #113 |
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100 lbs and some change heavier than the E9X and F8X (M4 MT listed at 3625 now).. No surprise really and how much this will impact the character of the car remain to be seen. Press drives sounded promising with even the base G8X was reported as more agile than the comp. F82 by some.
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08-25-2020, 12:21 PM | #114 |
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This makes absolutely no sense. G80 will be both faster and quicker than G20. G20 nimble? What are talking about? Its a porker and handles like shit.
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08-25-2020, 05:35 PM | #115 |
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Anyone that's ever launched a RWD M car knows that isn't remotely realistic.
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08-25-2020, 06:10 PM | #116 |
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Taken into account that Cup 2 tires are now available for official figures I wouldn’t say impossible but it sounds extreme. But more important lemetier doesn’t seem like someone spewing marketing propaganda not anchored in knowledge/reality.
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08-26-2020, 11:16 AM | #118 |
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Weight, unladen DIN/EU (kg): 1520/1595
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For those trying to calculate the 0-60 vs the X3M and thinking it will break 3.0, I don't see it happening because of the turbo lag.
X3MC 0-60 3.3 seconds 5-60 4.6 seconds thats how much the turbo lags, should be in the low 4s (4.1-4.2) despite the weight savings of the 3/4, that turbo lag will still be there on a street start, so you will be really disappointed at a stop light. I know, happens all the time to me, and I am not putting it in LC at every stop miss my old M3, had a better street launch (4.2-4.3). speaking of which I would be shocked if the new M3 beats the old one on 5-60 time, despite AWD and 60 more hp. All you are getting is better launched starts, so basically all marketing like Audi has always been (used to make fun of their 0-60 vs 5-60 times, now I am no longer laughing). So can't switch to Audi (overpriced underperforming) and Mercedes is about to switch to a 4cyl hybrid for the next AMG |
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With identical S58 engine and the turbo lag, AWD is not going to help launch the car better without LC because AWD isn't needed for cars without low end torque. A 3600lbs RWD M4 will destroy a 4600lbs AWD X3M every single time without the launch control. Hope this puts stoplight racers looking to buy RWD at ease.
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08-28-2020, 02:39 PM | #128 |
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Going back to the X3M/X4M launch, some who attended early M events that mentioned this exact issue (the lag off the line) were told by Bmw reps that the motor was tuned for how an suv is expected to respond. That could be just hearsay.... but combine with inside info that this will not be the exact same motor variant. My expectation is different performance curves, only time (and press drives) will tell
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4000lb to 3800lb is still a significant difference. Anyone who has been to the track should know having a 200lb instructor is immediately felt cornering and braking very clearly. No one would purposely choose to have a 200lb instructor in the car with them at all times. At the same time, the M3 has always worked as a one-car quiver for someone who has to take their kids to school and also wants to go to the track. For that person, the 3800lb version makes a lot more sense. The weight of the G8X is a disappointment for sure, this is the biggest hurdle to me getting one as I intend to track it intensively like I've done with the E9X and F8X generation. |
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