Fully Uncovered BMW G81 M3 Touring Spotted in the Wild

moproblems · 03-18-2022, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I would imagine, but since you have the trans out, already, I'd put a better clutch in it.

Maybe once clutches are out.... Plus you'd have to dump the entire AWD system.

Besharaf · 03-18-2022, 12:29 AM

Wasn't this supposed to be part of the LCI? I I don't see any changes, other than the iDrive 8 shift

Limegrntaln · 03-18-2022, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by moproblems

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I would imagine, but since you have the trans out, already, I'd put a better clutch in it.

Maybe once clutches are out.... Plus you'd have to dump the entire AWD system.

Since you'd need a manual transmission, anyway, I don't think that would be a problem. I haven't been under, or seen under the car, but the front axles in these "types" of cars, are all integrated into the transmission. I'd like to get a schematic to see how the whole system works, but I've yet to see such a thing.

advantage20 · 03-18-2022, 07:06 AM

prei1978 · 03-18-2022, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by G MONEY

RS-6 all day

I'd have an RS6 on order now if it wasn't $140K+ when options and dealer markups are added. Sick car.

If BMW offered the M3 Touring over here that would be my end-game daily driver. Honest: I'd buy one and drive it forever.

IcewaterPete · 03-18-2022, 08:20 AM

I’m LMAO at you guys. We finally get a pic without camo of the WHOLE car and y’all are bitching about the quality of the photo!!!

Thanks OP for getting this to us. I’ve signed the petition for USA delivery and I really hope it happens. Right now I have an order in for an INEOS Grenadier that I would gladly swap to an M3 touring for 2023. Come on BMW AG make it happen!!!

Moupe · 03-18-2022, 08:39 AM

G81 touring rear looking so much like the original Clownshoe (M Coupe). I could definitely get used to that G8x front end now!

seis-speed · 03-18-2022, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by moproblems

Maybe once clutches are out.... Plus you'd have to dump the entire AWD system.

That is much easier than the swap....

But, I think it still might be able to run the AWD??

Many AWD systems now can be turned off and on with a module.

I owned an Audi S4 manual and always thought the ultimate car would be an RS4 Avant Touring with manual, this G81 will be even better, IMO....I have seen some crazy manual swaps and I would definitely expect someone to do the swap and figure out all the mechanicals and software issues.

moproblems · 03-18-2022, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by seis-speed

That is much easier than the swap....

But, I think it still might be able to run the AWD??

Many AWD systems now can be turned off and on with a module.

I owned an Audi S4 manual and always thought the ultimate car would be an RS4 Avant Touring with manual, but the this G81 will be even better, IMO....I have seen some crazy manual swaps and I would definitely expect someone to do the swap and figure out all the mechanicals and software issues.

Issue is the transfer case is most definitely designed around the universal tailshaft pattern on the ZF8. The 6MT does not have a swappable tailshaft housing as it's one piece. On Audis the cars were generally always designed as awd first, this being easily adaptable to whatever configuration is possible. I'm sure somebody with more money than sense will try it but personally I doubt we'll see any AWD 6MT's for a.very very long time

seis-speed · 03-18-2022, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by moproblems

Issue is the transfer case is most definitely designed around the universal tailshaft pattern on the ZF8. The 6MT does not have a swappable tailshaft housing as it's one piece. On Audis the cars were generally always designed as awd first, this being easily adaptable to whatever configuration is possible. I'm sure somebody with more money than sense will try it but personally I doubt we'll see any AWD 6MT's for a.very very long time

BMW should offer an Xdrive manual G80 with lower HP and TQ.

I would be willing to just go that route and not lust after the wagon.

moproblems · 03-18-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by seis-speed

BMW should offer an Xdrive manual G80 with lower HP and TQ.

I would be willing to just go that route and not lust after the wagon.

Were it so easy it would be done already.

BimmerMat135 · 03-18-2022, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by moproblems

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Originally Posted by "seis-speed;28702559"

BMW should offer an Xdrive manual G80 with lower HP and TQ.

I would be willing to just go that route and not lust after the wagon.

Were it so easy it would be done already.

It's seem like the transmission Is the weak link for the M3 the awd system cab handle the torque. The F30 340i had a 6 speed manual/awd combo available so I guess maybe the m-awd might be too sophisticated for the manual transmission.

But again there i'm pretty sure a lot of folks would accept a more basic awd to keep the manual. It's just a guess but it is the case with my 2015 Legacy 6MT which has a very basic awd compared to the CVT version.

seis-speed · 03-18-2022, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

It's seem like the transmission Is the weak link for the M3 the awd system cab handle the torque. The F30 340i had a 6 speed manual/awd combo available so I guess maybe the m-awd might be too sophisticated for the manual transmission.

But again there i'm pretty sure a lot of folks would accept a more basic awd to keep the manual. It's just a guess but it is the case with my 2015 Legacy 6MT which has a very basic awd compared to the CVT version.

I had an E90 335xDrive manual while living in a mountain city/town and was running 400+ hp, it was a blast.

Since then I have had several AWD manual hatches and they are so much fun in the snow = to a track day IMO.

jeloz · 03-18-2022, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I was rummaging through my BMW news groups, this morning, and ran into this.

What a find!!!
So excited to see this wagon!
Thanks

Limegrntaln · 03-18-2022, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jeloz

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I was rummaging through my BMW news groups, this morning, and ran into this.

What a find!!!
So excited to see this wagon!
Thanks

You're welcome.

jeloz · 03-18-2022, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

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Originally Posted by jeloz

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I was rummaging through my BMW news groups, this morning, and ran into this.

What a find!!!
So excited to see this wagon!
Thanks

You're welcome.

We have a growing M3 Tourer group for those thinking about it or with a deposit down 💯💯💯

https://www.facebook.com/groups/3519...847/?ref=share

Sorry you can't get one 🇺🇸 😔
But welcome to join the group!

Likeanowl · 03-18-2022, 05:41 PM

Why is everyone so hyped over an M station wagon? I don’t get it

Limegrntaln · 03-18-2022, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Likeanowl

Why is everyone so hyped over an M station wagon? I don’t get it

All of these "Wagon Types" have a following. RS6 Avant, E63 AMG Wagon, Cadillac CTS-V Wagon, Dodge Magnum. Audi decided to go sportback.

jeloz · 03-18-2022, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Likeanowl

Why is everyone so hyped over an M station wagon? I don't get it

I've been into Wagons forever.. I think it's a simple your into them or not!

practical / stealth / fast ….

Yes I want a Porsche down the line ..

Currently have an RS4 B9 …..
Amazing car

TruthOne · 03-18-2022, 06:32 PM

Ugly, but all Wagons are hideous IMO

Limegrntaln · 03-18-2022, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TruthOne

Ugly, but all Wagons are hideous IMO

Eh, some are pretty sexxy.

TruthOne · 03-18-2022, 07:46 PM

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Ugly, but all Wagons are hideous IMO

Eh, some are pretty sexxy.

That's the best looking wagon but I still would never pay for that. I'd rather get an SQ8 if I were to go that route. That's like a lowered suv

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