[kjx]

For individual cars, do the cars appear with the correct color in the my BMW app? Or is it always the white car they put in the order tracker? How about representations of the car inside iDrive?

[warcity]

Originally Posted by kjx

For individual cars, do the cars appear with the correct color in the my BMW app? Or is it always the white car they put in the order tracker? How about representations of the car inside iDrive?

App shows the actual colour of your car.

[xantdieselx]

Originally Posted by TheRas900

How does the steering and clutch weight feel in these cars compared to the prior generation 340i or M240i?

Can't speak about the clutch weight as I have a Comp and my last M240i was 8AT but steering is noticeably heavier in the G80 especially in Comfort. Not a ton of feel but way more direct and weighted than the 2.

[warcity]

Originally Posted by xantdieselx

Can't speak about the clutch weight as I have a Comp and my last M240i was 8AT but steering is noticeably heavier in the G80 especially in Comfort. Not a ton of feel but way more direct and weighted than the 2.

Compared to my 2018 M440 the M4 clutch is identical. Same throw. Steering (in sports mode) on the 440 was much tighter. Regular mode both cars feel the same IMO.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by TheRas900

How does the steering and clutch weight feel in these cars compared to the prior generation 340i or M240i?

I just sold my F23 M240i 6MT to BMW of Silver Spring (MD), and they had a (nearly) new base G80 in the showroom. I unfortunately didn't get to drive it, but I did have some extended (standard) seat time and played with the electronics while waiting for my paperwork to be processed. This will definitely not fully address your question, but the clutch weight and travel seemed very similar to my M240i, however the throw on the stick was noticeably shorter and more precise. I've read some unflattering things about the stick in the G80/82 (albeit inconsistently; some have been more positive), so I would definitely like to test drive it at some point to get a better feel on the open road. But, I'd say it felt pretty great based on my first impression.

Couple of other impressions:

- I'm sure the carbon buckets embrace you like a long-lost lover, but the base seats offered a ton of comfort and great lateral support... better than the thrones in my M240, FWIW (which I think are already extremely comfortable and supportive).

- Maybe I've gotten used to the face, but honestly it looked great in person. I saw a large number of people entering the showroom and gawking at it, mostly with very positive impressions. The overall appearance is aggressive and unique and works well, IMHO. Honestly, the humongous kidneys on the 7-series right next to it seemed a lot more awkward.

- I've also heard people complaining about the HK sound system. It may not be as special as one of the premium B&W systems on a 7-series, but even listening to FM radio, it was far, far superior to the base "HiFi" (non-HK) system I had in my M240 (which was already improved from the factory by installing BavSound speakers a couple years back).

- Great leg- and head-room in the back and cargo space. Bear in mind we're talking about a 3-series here, and this is a ~500hp saloon that'll hoon all day long while carrying four in comfort. Very impressive packaging.

[TheRas900]

Originally Posted by xantdieselx

Can't speak about the clutch weight as I have a Comp and my last M240i was 8AT but steering is noticeably heavier in the G80 especially in Comfort. Not a ton of feel but way more direct and weighted than the 2.

Good to know, I was hoping for tighter steering. Thinking about an order and there are none local to even sit in, let alone test drive. Thanks much!!

[TheRas900]

Originally Posted by warcity

Compared to my 2018 M440 the M4 clutch is identical. Same throw. Steering (in sports mode) on the 440 was much tighter. Regular mode both cars feel the same IMO.

Also what I was hoping for, I like the normal BMW clutch feel.

Are you saying the steering on the 440 was heavier in feel?

Thanks much!

[TheRas900]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

I just sold my F23 M240i 6MT to BMW of Silver Spring (MD), and they had a (nearly) new base G80 in the showroom. I unfortunately didn't get to drive it, but I did have some extended (standard) seat time and played with the electronics while waiting for my paperwork to be processed. This will definitely not fully address your question, but the clutch weight and travel seemed very similar to my M240i, however the throw on the stick was noticeably shorter and more precise. I've read some unflattering things about the stick in the G80/82 (albeit inconsistently; some have been more positive), so I would definitely like to test drive it at some point to get a better feel on the open road. But, I'd say it felt pretty great based on my first impression.

Couple of other impressions:

- I'm sure the carbon buckets embrace you like a long-lost lover, but the base seats offered a ton of comfort and great lateral support... better than the thrones in my M240, FWIW (which I think are already extremely comfortable and supportive).

- Maybe I've gotten used to the face, but honestly it looked great in person. I saw a large number of people entering the showroom and gawking at it, mostly with very positive impressions. The overall appearance is aggressive and unique and works well, IMHO. Honestly, the humongous kidneys on the 7-series right next to it seemed a lot more awkward.

- I've also heard people complaining about the HK sound system. It may not be as special as one of the premium B&W systems on a 7-series, but even listening to FM radio, it was far, far superior to the base "HiFi" (non-HK) system I had in my M240 (which was already improved from the factory by installing BavSound speakers a couple years back).

- Great leg- and head-room in the back and cargo space. Bear in mind we're talking about a 3-series here, and this is a ~500hp saloon that'll hoon all day long while carrying four in comfort. Very impressive packaging.

Happy to hear it has the normal BMW clutch, which is one of my favorite parts of these cars. Also glad to hear your thoughts on the seats and HK system.

Thanks again!

[xantdieselx]

Originally Posted by TheRas900

Happy to hear it has the normal BMW clutch, which is one of my favorite parts of these cars. Also glad to hear your thoughts on the seats and HK system.

Thanks again!

I did drive the M4 Base with 6MT before ordering my M3 Comp and I honestly was not a fan of the clutch take-up and feel. Granted, it's been a few years since I've owned a BMW with a clutch (08' 135i) but I felt the clutch lacked feel and engaged a bit high for my preference. It made it hard to take off smoothly from a stop. Now, folks will say that you can install a clutch stop and that will greatly improve this but I can't say for sure. Other than that, everything about the car felt like it was dialed up to 10 compared to the M240i. Even driving it slow felt special and that is what sealed the deal for me. Pull the trigger if you can, you won't regret it for half a second.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by warcity

App shows the actual colour of your car.

Originally Posted by kjx

For individual cars, do the cars appear with the correct color in the my BMW app? Or is it always the white car they put in the order tracker? How about representations of the car inside iDrive?

This is what my Enzian car looks like in the app.

[TheRas900]

Originally Posted by xantdieselx

I did drive the M4 Base with 6MT before ordering my M3 Comp and I honestly was not a fan of the clutch take-up and feel. Granted, it's been a few years since I've owned a BMW with a clutch (08' 135i) but I felt the clutch lacked feel and engaged a bit high for my preference. It made it hard to take off smoothly from a stop. Now, folks will say that you can install a clutch stop and that will greatly improve this but I can't say for sure. Other than that, everything about the car felt like it was dialed up to 10 compared to the M240i. Even driving it slow felt special and that is what sealed the deal for me. Pull the trigger if you can, you won't regret it for half a second.

Really helpful feedback! As much as I'd love to carve canyons all day, living in a suburb of Philly I'm more likely to encounter traffic filled corridors on my weekend rides. I was worried the M3/M4 higher rpm torque peak might make the M3/M4 feel sluggish around town.

I'm debating trying to find a lightly used 340 or M240 vs building my perfect spec new M3 so these comparisions truly help. Keep 'em coming!!

[HNSKP]

The clutch is very similar to my ‘18 340i. The engagement point is high in both. I can confirm that the clutch stop helps tremendously. I took out one of the three washers to avoid potential issues with auto rev match that some people are having.

The shifter in the G80 seems to have a bit less rubberiness and less free play in gear. Steering feels a bit tighter and more precise, but just as numb.

I swapped out of my 340i lease after 20 months because it just didn’t feel special, if that tells you anything.

[Salespunk]

The problem with the 6 spd setups is the clutch delay valve that BMW builds in. The CDV makes it difficult to take off and shift smoothly especially for people that are new to manual setups. It used to be easy to pull the CDV and get a more natural feel. I have heard it is now built into the master cylinder now making it much more difficult to remove.

[DonJuan]

Originally Posted by TigahRouge

I filled my G82 today with gas. The tank is only a little over 13 gallons. Fuel economy is terrible. The range is in the low 300's with a full tank. But I still LOVE HER!!❤️❤️

I thought the tank was 16.5 US Gal.

[jailonacs99]

Originally Posted by DonJuan

I thought the tank was 16.5 US Gal.

I got about 370+ miles on a road trip I just took, and when I filled up it stopped at 13 gallons and I was still on a quarter tank with an estimated 85 mile range. Thankfully the car gets an easy high 20s and I was even regularly in a steady low 30s MPG on the highway. Consistent with my F82, which is exactly what I was hoping for.

[DonJuan]

Originally Posted by My8thMandcounting

Anyone else surprised that the wiper fluid comes out on the actual wiper blades and doesn't spray against the windshield? I thought my sprayer was clogged or broken, then figured out it sprays from the wiper blade.

Hmm, that's a first one for BMW.. (at least in modern cars) Can't remember which brand, but I've seen that before.

[DonJuan]

Originally Posted by jailonacs99

I got about 370+ miles on a road trip I just took, and when I filled up it stopped at 13 gallons and I was still on a quarter tank with an estimated 85 mile range. Thankfully the car gets an easy high 20s and I was even regularly in a steady low 30s MPG on the highway. Consistent with my F82, which is exactly what I was hoping for.

Yeah, amazing engineering, basically a racing engine that can get you high 20's at cruising speeds.

[Tall Tom Cruise]

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Excellent! Thank you sir!

More on this topic -- You can also set certain locations in your nav to automatically turn on the front camera.

I used my own address for one of these points since my driveway has a slight ramp/bump. Cool feature

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by Tall Tom Cruise

More on this topic -- You can also set certain locations in your nav to automatically turn on the front camera.

I used my own address for one of these points since my driveway has a slight ramp/bump. Cool feature

That's bad ass!

[DonJuan]

Originally Posted by DecemberStorm

3) its the exact same triangular key as all current bmw, nothing special unfortunately.

Nothing special indeed, 7 year-old design, my 2014 X5 Msport has the exact same key. M flag and everything.

[TheRas900]

Originally Posted by HNSKP

The clutch is very similar to my ‘18 340i. The engagement point is high in both. I can confirm that the clutch stop helps tremendously. I took out one of the three washers to avoid potential issues with auto rev match that some people are having.

The shifter in the G80 seems to have a bit less rubberiness and less free play in gear. Steering feels a bit tighter and more precise, but just as numb.

I swapped out of my 340i lease after 20 months because it just didn’t feel special, if that tells you anything.

Thank you, very good comparision.

[Medal]

Originally Posted by Alarmin

Those who got driving assistant professional - how noticeable is the notch in the grill in person? Does anyone regret getting it?

Not at all and once you have your car, you'll never think about it again.