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yea it doesn't make sense, if that where the case why only for xdrive and not RWD comp. BMW has their reputation on the line and people day 1 will put in on the dyno to see if its true. BMW will never pull a stunt like that knowing people will test it.
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02-06-2024, 09:26 AM | #47 | |
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You can put two identical vehicles on the same dyno and they may read 20HP difference at 500+ HP (+/- 4%). Heck, every single dyno we saw so far shows that 503HP number was very conservative. And so is probably 523 for the LCI. Of course...I cannot wait for the new owner feedback that they can "feel" extra 20HP vs their 3-year old traded in M3CX |
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02-06-2024, 10:12 AM | #48 |
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I don't know whether you can feel the 20 hp, but it's hardly believable to me that BMW is simply advertising a higher figure here, even though the engines are 100% identical (incl. SW).
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02-06-2024, 10:26 AM | #49 |
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Don't know why people are complaining about a 20hp bump lol, I feel like there would be ZERO complaints if BMW just kept it the same. People don't realize it's a 4% bump in HP for an LCI, this isn't a new model by any means and a bump like that is still good!
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02-06-2024, 10:36 AM | #50 |
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If I’m not mistaken, the HP bump is high in the rev range - something like 5800 rpm - so it will make a difference in how the car feels to pull to red line…. It’s probably a SW change? When I took my comp in for its break-in service, they offered dinan upgrades to +100 hp so it can be done via SW as always.
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02-06-2024, 10:53 AM | #51 |
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Will to disregard your ignorant comment, I probably own more BMWs than you have. You’re probably one of those people who just bought one. Please don’t make stupid comments like this.
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The e46 was on rails with road feel but relatively slow. Loved that car though. e9x M3 was a screamer that introduced quite a few advancements and user modulation with EDC, steering, etc. F80 was a hot mess but engineering perfection. G80 in manual form is basically a refined, muscular e39 M5 without the road feel. G80 comp and x drive are insane dual use daily and track weapons. My advice is to appreciate the uniqueness without being too nostalgic. |
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Yea it’s all just nostalgia and old guys saying “they don’t make them like they used”. People remember having something they were excited about when they were young and see as superior.
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Yeah the other trap is looking at a car like the 911 and saying it’s remained more or less the same but improved while retaining the things that made it special. The M3 is unique in each generation and that should be appreciated.
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Silly question.. a 20hp increase in minuscule compared to what the HP already is. So without a wholesale redesign of the engine, how did BMW achieve this monstrous bragging rights increase. Did someone one sneak a copy of Bimmercode?
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They both make over 523 hp stock, so there would be no legal case for misrepresentation. In the case of the CS and CSL, BMW is advertising an increase in boost from 24.7 psi (Comp) to 30.5 psi. I haven't seen any information regarding an increase in boost for the LCI Comp. Doesn't mean there is isn't one though.
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No, on the ordering guide for the 2025. Just want to see how they can be ordered. I keep hearing they’re an option. I want to see how that turns out. Are they standard, are they $2,000 for the headlights and tails, for an upgrade? Are they in a package? Are they going to be back to adding them into the Exectuve package, like 2021? Just curious. I know the prices are still going to be high, at the parts counter.
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Asking the right questions here...
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