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      10-19-2023, 01:29 AM   #67
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Dear Friends,

as a newbie to M cars I have another question.

When I turn with full lock (parking lot) I sometimes have the feeling as if the front wheels also had a limited slip diff, they don’t like it, kindof reminds me of the days I drove an old 4wd truck with 4wd low left engaged. Is this the case?

What about the rear M Diff? Is it mostly open and only locks when needed or is it for eg. 30%-90% Lock? I also have the feeling when taking abrupt 90* turns (about 20-25mph) and giving a little gas (1500 rpm, wet surface), it makes the rear end become loose. It’s quite nice, just wanted to know if it’s a normal experience, maybe the diff lock engaging automatically? Note: I have everything on efficient and normal setting in 4wd.

I’m beginning to actually enjoy the car with all its raw attitude. Fuel consumption is all over the place from hypermiling to gas guzzler mostly depending on the density of traffic.

It feels like you pay not after miles driven but time spent on the road.

Going on a 250mile road trip to the Black Forest on Saturday. We’ll see how my wife and kids like it.
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      10-19-2023, 01:44 AM   #68
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speaking of my car, I don't have any complaint. Loving it so far. 18 months of ownership as of today.....the more i drive it, the more I love it. To me it's a bargain for the perfomance offered.
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      10-19-2023, 02:50 AM   #69
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Drove it in all Efficient modes until the break-in service.
Was impressed at how civil the ride was and not at all untamed or difficult to handle.

Was even more shocked when I put it in M2 mode for the first time after the break-in service.
Man, it is savage - it jumps to light speed at will and handles like a dream.
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      10-19-2023, 04:02 AM   #70
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I didn’t test drive car either, and I had only seen one iomg g80 in my local area, driving by on highway. I Thank youtube owners for my confidence in platform,

I only have 803 miles in as I write this, but I love how the car changes based on efficient, m1 modes…. I’ve yet to try m2. Mindset is relax and chill when in efficient. click that M1 button at the light before a On ramp, and all hell breaks loose, touch 1xx and and that’s with shifting before 5500 rpm’s. Torque is great everywhere, even with manual, it honestly isn’t necessary to downshift in slower zones on highway. (so long as your not gonna floor it to get back up to speed)

**1-2 shift only inconsistent for me in efficient mode.
** front brakes do squeal. I already have aftermarket pads, that I’ll install after break in service

Very happy.
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      10-19-2023, 08:34 AM   #71
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Dear Friends,

as a newbie to M cars I have another question.

When I turn with full lock (parking lot) I sometimes have the feeling as if the front wheels also had a limited slip diff, they don’t like it, kindof reminds me of the days I drove an old 4wd truck with 4wd low left engaged. Is this the case? .
it's called the Ackermann effect. Normal side effect of wide tires and certain types of suspension geometry:

https://www.mcgrathautoblog.com/auto...ette-stingray/
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      10-19-2023, 09:15 AM   #72
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Very good!! ThX!
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      10-20-2023, 09:45 AM   #73
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Out of curiosity, how many people ordered a G8X without test driving it first?
I ordered G82 a few weeks ago without test driving it. I don't think I will be disappointed when I receive it. Especially considering I'm switching from 2020 2 series 😁
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      10-20-2023, 10:23 AM   #74
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I guess I don’t understand why people complain about the stiff ride? You buy an M for the performance which includes a stiff ride even in “Comfort”. If you think the ride is too stiff perhaps the M340i would have been a better option. This seems to a general theme I see in all the BMW forums about all M cars.
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      10-20-2023, 11:10 AM   #75
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I guess I don’t understand why people complain about the stiff ride? You buy an M for the performance which includes a stiff ride even in “Comfort”. If you think the ride is too stiff perhaps the M340i would have been a better option. This seems to a general theme I see in all the BMW forums about all M cars.
True, M cars are supposed to be a little stiff. It's the quality of the roads in the States that is the problem, in my opinion. In Florida I was never complaining about the roads but in Illinois, it's a bloody Chernobyl, I think it should be illegal to have roads this bad.
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I guess I don’t understand why people complain about the stiff ride? You buy an M for the performance which includes a stiff ride even in “Comfort”. If you think the ride is too stiff perhaps the M340i would have been a better option. This seems to a general theme I see in all the BMW forums about all M cars.
People who complain about a stiff ride in a G80 never drove an F80.
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      10-20-2023, 11:58 AM   #77
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My wife drove my M4xc for the first time yesterday (I got it last week). Her comment “this feel like a lot more build quality compared to your last car (M440xd ‘21), it feels like a totally different car!” She felt a difference at once and definitely thought it was a positive change.

Her other comment was “why are people driving so slow, I want to try the acceleration?!”.
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      10-20-2023, 03:40 PM   #78
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No complaint on my G80. Driving around town, you can just feel the power wanting to come out. This car doesn’t like going slow. It’s just bananas fast!
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in Illinois, it's a bloody Chernobyl, I think it should be illegal to have roads this bad.
I can’t agree more on Chicago area’s road conditions. Bloody hell, I honestly would’ve bought the tire protection package had I still been there.
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I can’t agree more on Chicago area’s road conditions. Bloody hell, I honestly would’ve bought the tire protection package had I still been there.
Almost two years in Florida, zero flat tires. Less than 2 years in Illinois, 6 flat tires...

You can drop your drivetrain while driving on the interstate🤣 I feel bad for my car.
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      10-20-2023, 08:20 PM   #81
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I have both the F80 and xdrive G80. F80 has KW DDS suspension(better than stock) and G80 is on M-performance suspension. I prefer the F80 overall despite traction problems. It feels light. G80 Feels heavy and too wide. I like G80 engine over F80 and the extra traction with xdrive. However, F80 is more fun to drive and edges me to drive more spiritedly even when losing control. I have had the G80 for 6 months and still cant get used to its size. I plan to replace G80 with a 992 GTS in a few years. I just hate the heavy car feeling and it does not mask its weight like most people here say. I drive both F80 and G80 weekly. Getting into the F80 feels like getting into a sport car compared to my G80. The G80 is definitely a heavy feeling car. In isolation, G80 is great but I can't even park it in some tight parking garages in NOVA. Feels like parking a 7 series.
I sold my 7 series and bought the G80 and by no means it feels like a Seven. Also I did even option the 360 camera and never feel I can't get it onto a pot and also I have more room in my garage and back it in every day. Now I never drove a f80 so I can't compare it to my G80 but I do have fun tossing it around on the back roads around Virginia.
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I took my license last year, at 42 yrs old. Bought the X3e30 for the family right away. Didn’t want to crash/scratch it so I bought a M440 ‘21 in April. Was annoyed about it being “M-lite”. Wanted the real thing.

Never even sat in an M-car before. Ordered in June and picked up last week. First time I ever been in one.

It’s such a different car compared with the M440. No regrets!
Only issue at the moment is to stay under 5/6k RPM for another 1800 km.
I sat in a M3 and it just felt different from any other BMW I've owned. I owned five 7 series over a fifteen year period and although the Seven was luxurious, the M3 felt special.
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      10-21-2023, 03:18 AM   #83
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As a first time BMW owner as of about a month ago with a WB Hellcat Redeye (Challenger) as my prior daily driver I must say, my M4C with XDrive has absolutely impressed the hell out of me (no pun intended). My Redeye was fast and extremely powerful, but felt sluggish getting there. From a roll, it was nuts. From a dig, it was just too powerfull, and spinnin aint winnin! On a drive with twisties I always felt like the Redeye wanted to get away from me, and that I was always one slight miscalculation away from loosing it. Pure American muscle with raw power, and super fun in its own right, don’t get me wrong.

My M4C on the other hand, is just impressive. Torque, throttle response, handling (especially with XDrive)…. Just wow. Super nimble too. I still find it hard to believe the power and torque being pumped out by that inline 6. It just feels so “planted” and one with the road. Almost as if it’s on rails. I feel wayyy more confident pushing it in corners. Just amazing! My muscle car buddies are taking my switch in stride, and while I do miss my Hellcat from time to time, I am head over heals with my choice.

The other thing I love is the luxury feel in addition to the power. Having previously owned a V Series Cadillac before my Hellcat Redeye, I always missed the comfort, luxury + power combination. I now have that again with my M4 and could not be happier.
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      10-21-2023, 08:04 AM   #84
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I recently bought an X5M and came from an Alfa Giulia QV. The X5M was missing the stiffness and road feel that I loved. It's been in the shop for an extended amount of time, so I ordered an M3C and will most likely trade it in when the car arrives.

The stiffness and road feel is my favorite part of driving. I don't like floating down the road.
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