[djpapeleta]

Originally Posted by Hendo741

I have no horse in this race, but from what I'm reading you started blowing them up within 72 hours of them receiving your ECU. Patience is a virtue.

Lol I am inpatient person hence why I did it myself. I hate relying on middle men and it in my nature to always do things myself. This saved me time and money. Some vendors use scare tactics and making you believe if you don't use them you could risk losing you dme same as dealerships doing the same trying to upscale you things you really don't need.

[Hendo741]

Originally Posted by djpapeleta

Lol I am inpatient person hence why I did it myself. I hate relying on middle men and it in my nature to always do things myself. This saved me time and money. Some vendors use scare tactics and making you believe if you don't use them you could risk losing you dme same as dealerships doing the same trying to upscale you things you really don't need.

You were able to send out your DME from a hospital or care facility? Interesting! Or is the word you're looking for actually impatient??

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by rmeitz167

I can vouch for using jairo at orlando autowerks. We have sent 4 ecu's out now to be unlocked via him and its been a 7-8 day process every time.

+1

[froz3ng80]

Originally Posted by sk3let0nz

I too questioned the same, but grew impatient and decided to send my ECU out to Femto. I did it with Visconti tuning, very quick, sent it out 23rd of May and got it back on the 31st. Total cost was about $1895, but I chose to pay that rather than dealing with any issues.

Is Visconti a middle man service that deals with Femto, or your local auto shop?

[djpapeleta]

Originally Posted by M 4 Doctor

Is Visconti a middle man service that deals with Femto, or your local auto shop?

Middle man and tuning shop. You can deal with Femto yourself.

[2Times]

Surprised it hasn't been cracked in the US yet.

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by 2Times

Surprised it hasn't been cracked in the US yet.

Nope, it takes secret russian technology

[M_Torx]

why is BMW locking them all the sudden must be government regulations or something ? was the f80 locked also ? and any in the past ? can u not just wipe the ecu completely then use a copy and just load that on ? or am guessing every part that communicates with the ecu will only talk to ecu if it's speaking same language as the parts- (engine)?

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by TurboT888

why is BMW locking them all the sudden must be government regulations or something ? was the f80 locked also ? and any in the past ? can u not just wipe the ecu completely then use a copy and just load that on ? or am guessing every part that communicates with the ecu will only talk to ecu if it's speaking same language as the parts- (engine)?

warranty claims are billions of dollars a year for a manufacturer.

[LeRoy]

Originally Posted by LongBeachDinanFan

The biggest risk seems to be BMW doing an over the air computer update without even asking you.

I believe you can turn those off

[evidence]

Originally Posted by 2Times

Surprised it hasn't been cracked in the US yet.

Likely just legal concerns, you're inviting law suits. Companies that provided ways to break DVD encryption, and mod chips for gaming consoles etc were targets for suits. Russia seems a safe enough place to run a business that would be untouchable by the west.

Originally Posted by TurboT888

why is BMW locking them all the sudden must be government regulations or something ? was the f80 locked also ? and any in the past ? can u not just wipe the ecu completely then use a copy and just load that on ? or am guessing every part that communicates with the ecu will only talk to ecu if it's speaking same language as the parts- (engine)?

Like mentioned, guessing it's because of warranty concerns. Just gives BMW tighter controls.

These are the first ECUs to be locked in this way that I'm aware of. It's actually Bosche that implemented it (Supra uses it also in its B58). It's not that the communication is encrypted, it's using signed image validation like Secure Boot. So the ECU won't start up if the image doesn't match a known signature. There is probably a backdoor or bug that FEMTO found to allow them to neuter the signature verification.

[M_Torx]

am sure one day someone that knows the unlock will be anonymous... and put it out to public... secrets won't be held forever that's facts... it always comes out just matter of when

[TVonthe80]

GM started doing this on the C7 ZR1 and carried into the C8. I believe they use Bosch ecu's as well. As far as i'm aware, no one has found a way to unlock those either and there's definitely more resources being thrown at that in the US. There was talk that GM was going to give the keys to a few chosen tuners (callaway, hennessey, lingenfelter types) but I don't think that ever came about. This is likely the new normal as new performance cars get launched.

Really, it just means people are going to create smarter piggybacks if the ECU itself is uncrackable, so it's sort of a futile battle for the OEMs. Still not clear why they don't sell unlocked ECUs that void all warranty once installed.

[Hadib233]

Replying to this to see if anyone’s got an update. If somehow there’s an unlock by spring or summer Alot of s58 owners will be happy when suns out. Anyone have updates if there’s an unlock to come in US.

[Alexp19]

I saw this instagram post today. This guy claims to have received a call from someone telling him the unlock for 2021+ ECUs has been done stateside now. Not sure how true this is just wanting to share with you guys. Here is the post.

[SE7EN335]

Originally Posted by Alexp19

I saw this instagram post today. This guy claims to have received a call from someone telling him the unlock for 2021+ ECUs has been done stateside now. Not sure how true this is just wanting to share with you guys. Here is the post.

Definitely would take that post with a grain of a salt unless some solid proof is released

[GoldfishTX]

Originally Posted by SE7EN335

Definitely would take that post with a grain of a salt unless some solid proof is released

We are due for our semi-annual domestic ecu unlock hope post...

[femtoevo]

Originally Posted by Alexp19

I saw this instagram post today. This guy claims to have received a call from someone telling him the unlock for 2021+ ECUs has been done stateside now. Not sure how true this is just wanting to share with you guys. Here is the post.

This guy owns an old M2 Competition, engine type: S55, ECU type: MEVD172G, that doesn't even come close to modern G8x engines: S58 with MG1 ECU.

[Indo Rider]

See y'all in 6 months.

[LongBeachDinanFan]

Originally Posted by Indo Rider

See y'all in 6 months.

[FSociety]

Originally Posted by femtoevo

This guy owns an old M2 Competition, engine type: S55, ECU type: MEVD172G, that doesn't even come close to modern G8x engines: S58 with MG1 ECU.

Exactly

[Alexp19]

Originally Posted by SE7EN335

Definitely would take that post with a grain of a salt unless some solid proof is released

I agree. My ECU is already unlocked I already took in the fact that we will not see any domestic unlock anytime soon. Just wanted to share the post and see what you all thought.